Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Smithsonian conspiracy

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The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS. dbenbenn | talk 19:04, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The votes were 4 delete, 2 merge, 4 keep.

Smithsonian conspiracy[edit]

Rant. Rick K 09:27, Jan 25, 2005 (UTC)

Total lack of NPOV, probably a copy-vio, but could be rescued, it's a valid conspiracy theory. San de Berg 09:28, Jan 25, 2005 (UTC)
Keep but fix. This is a reasonable topic for an article, even if this initial version is pretty bad. --Zero 10:37, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Delete --- not fixable. Someone else may want to start again from scratch, but deleting this won't prevent that anyway. --Christofurio 14:39, Jan 25, 2005 (UTC)
Weak Keep, needs a major cleanup and expansion, the page needs to be retitled. Conspiracy could be inferred as a POV. Megan1967 01:17, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Delete: irremediable POV. Wile E. Heresiarch 06:24, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Delete. Unverifiable as to the truth of the theory. No evidence yet provided as being a well-known conspiracy theory. No source citations. The well-known conspiracy theory is the exact opposite. It has been claimed that the Smithsonian minimized the Wright Brothers' contributions and exaggerated those of Samuel Langley as a pioneer of flight, and promulgated dubious claims about the theoretical airworthiness of Langley's craft (it-coulda-been-a-contenda-if-only). Dpbsmith (talk) 14:41, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Actually it is a well-known claim. There is even a paragraph on it in Wright Brothers. Probably the material on this page came from one of the several books on the subject. --Zero 22:49, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Keep or Merge with Wright brothers. Also make it NPOV. --Idont Havaname 00:53, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Keep It's poorly written and needs to be cleaned up, but it should stay since several other "unverified theories" are found throughout Wikipedia (and this one has kernals of truth to it). LegitReality 20:50, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Merge with the Wright Brothers material on this topic, and redirect, assuming the information can be sourced reliably. Besides Langley, who are the inventors who achieved flight earlier? The information (if that is what it is) should not be in an obscurely titled separate article where (a) it won't be found; and (b) probably won't go through the usual WP vetting process. --BM 22:08, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Merge with the Wright Brothers section, but it definitely needs work. —Mar·ka·ci 19:02, 2005 Feb 2 (UTC)

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