User talk:TadejM/Archive 1

This page is an archive of past discussions for the period January 2005–May 2005. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page.

The following talk pages are archived, please don't change them. If you want to pick up the subject again, please go to my talk page.

This is the archive from 27 January 2005, when I got my first message to 8 June 2005. This is the first period of my activity on Wikipedia.

Welcome

Welcome!

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User:66.20.28.21

He seems to have ceased the edits on that particular article. Also, while you need to be an admin to block someone, but adding diffs, pages showing the difference between two edits, is something anyone can do. Also, it saves me the time to go through the entire history. :) He has been warned for these edits and I'll be keeping a close eye on him. Mgm|^(talk) 18:49, Feb 7, 2005 (UTC)

Cluster of differentiation

Hello, Eleassar777. Thought I should let you know that I've posted a reply to your question/suggestion about the page on Cluster of differentiation, of which I was a major contributor last year. .... You have been editing a number of related articles and seem to know your stuffs. Perhaps you may be interested in Wikipedia:WikiProject Clinical medicine. Have a look.
Ciao !
-- PFHLai 22:06, 2005 Feb 12 (UTC)

History of medicine

I say you Edit Summary comment for History of medicine about it needing to be rewritten. If you have ideas about a sweeping rewrite, great! The best way to do this is to create History of medicine/temp as a temporary page and work there, putting a link to it, discussing your thoughts on the History of Medicine Talk page. If after a while, the temp article reaches a form you like and that seems to make people generally happy, you can replace the main page, and kill the temp page. Does that make sense? - DavidWBrooks 14:21, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Warnings

Please do not add unnecessary warnings to articles. →Raul654 21:16, Feb 21, 2005 (UTC)

If I would not find it necessary I would not add it. Can you explain why it is unnecessary? Thanks. --Eleassar777 21:18, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Well, in general, you shouldn't be adding *any* warnings to articles at all. NPOV and factual accuracy disputes (and, to a lesser extent, cleanup) are the exception; on the other hand, just because an article that exceeds 32k, it does not warrant a warning. →Raul654 21:50, Feb 21, 2005 (UTC)

History of neurology

History of neurology is very good. It prompted me to write recurrent laryngeal nerve, which was still a redlink!

Thanks for all your medical edits. Have you joined the Wikiproject Clinical medicine yet? JFW | T@lk 18:53, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Africa

You voted for Africa, this week's CSB Collaboration of the week. Please come and help it become a featured-standard article. A list of concerns about the article have been placed on its talk page. Banyan Tree 18:39, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

World Population

(Also added this comment to the talk on the concerned page.)

The table is in thousands. The world population in 2005 is not less than 6.5 millions.

Keep up the good work and Happy wiki-ing Bogfjellmo 18:25, Mar 6, 2005 (UTC)

Trödel's signature

I have no idea why that happened. I certainly didn't get a warning message about an edit conflict, and why on earth would I do it deliberately? I see Trödel has now reinserted their signature, so there is no need for me to fix anything. Please remember to assume good faith on edits - established editors rarely start vandalising Wikipedia. Warofdreams 15:28, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Slovenia and the Balkans

All major sources list Slovenia and Croatia as lying on the Balkan peninsula. Can you tell me what religion (Roman Catholicism) and being part of the Habsburg Empire have to do with being part or not being part of a geographical entity??? Romania was also part of the Ottoman empire but with the exception of Dobrudzha it is not considered part of the Balkan peninsula on geographical grounds, just as Slovenia and Croatia are considered part of the Balkan peninsula again on geographical grounds. It is really bizarre when politics starts to influence geography. VMORO 15:46, Mar 20, 2005 (UTC)~

Yes, in the terms of physical geography you are close to what is true, although half of Slovenia is located north of Sava and should be considered part of Central Europe.

However, have you ever heard of cultural geography, political geography and historical geography? In this section of the article the distinction between physical and human geography is not at all clear. In the article it is said that "the inclusion of Slovenia and even Croatia is more controversial but it has often been regarded as Balkan due to its association with the former Yugoslavia.". In my opinion mentioning of the Habsburg Empire is even more important than mentioning of former Yugoslavia, as it influenced Slovenian culture more profoundly. --Eleassar777 16:58, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

test

Historical regions of Central Europe

Hi, this is just a blank map I uploaded in case someone needed it for some purpose (like correcting it or translating into some other language). The map with labels is here and it's used in this article. – Kpalion (talk) 20:18, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Mummy

In the article about mummies, naturally formed mummies should be more emphasized, for example Ötzi and others. The article should also tell something about the scientific meaning of mummies, as they enable us to infer about culture, technology and science in the past. Thanks for your efforts.

Well, I'd like to write more about the process in which natural mummie form, but I didn't really have the info to do so.

What do you mean by more emphasized? There's already a Chinese mummy in the article, which I'd really like to move to a seperate article. Anyway, if I am to write sections about natural mummies, I should do the same for the Egyptian ones. As for the scientific meaning: I've mentioned what it says about culture, but what are you expecting in regard to science and technology? You'd help a lot if you could be a little more specific in your comment. Mgm|^(talk) 18:02, Mar 29, 2005 (UTC)

FYI - User:Rednblu at Talk:Human

You may be interested in this: User:Rednblu/History. Since he's apparently collecting evidence against you, one can only assume that he's trying to build a case. In light of that, you should then be made aware of this: User_talk:Rednblu/Archive2003_07_01To2004_10_30#Allegations_against_User:Rednblu. If push comes to shove there's a pretty strong case to be made for POV warrioring and obstructionism, particularly considering his history here and his self-stated agenda found on the usenet.--FeloniousMonk 22:24, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I enjoyed our conversation

The above message is posted first only because there was an edit conflict.

<<I also support SlimVirgin, as Rednblu posted to Talk:Human in an extremely disrespectful way to me too. --Eleassar777 09:13, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)>>

I apologize for my exuberance. I enjoyed very much your questions, which I viewed as an excellent homework set on what "human" is. I certainly meant no disrespect. Quite the contrary, I thought your comments extraordinarily thought provoking. I intended to compliment you by calling you "Herrprofessor Eleassar." In my culture, to be called "Herrprofessor" is the highest compliment anyone could get. You made me think and work my understanding about the Human page to a whole new level. All the best. ---Rednblu | Talk 22:29, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Quarto by email

Hi Eleassar777, a new mailing list has been set up to distribute news about the Wikimedia foundation, specifically at the moment to publicise Quarto. I saw your name on the quarto talk page requesting a copy by email, and I think this mailing list is how we're going to do it for the moment. It'll be a html email, which I've added to the Quarto talk page m:Talk:WQ. Mailing list is called Foundation-news-l (We also need translators!) Cheers w:User:Cormaggio

Spelling

Please see John Paul II discussion in regards to the Americanised spelling changes, thank you

Galicnik

I find that your edits on the cheese reduce rather than improve NPOV! Your edits are, from my personal bias, an improvement. Thus I will leave them as you suggested.

Regards,

--Modi 15:25, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I was trying to phrase that bullet item in what seemed to me to be better English; if it is inaccurate, please feel free to correct me. -- Seth Ilys 18:34, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Infobox (Human)

User talk:SEWilco: Great infobox (Human). Can you include the source of info in it? Thanks. --Eleassar777 12:47, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Yanked it out of Template:Planet Infobox/Earth to make it smaller. Look in its history for origin. (SEWilco 19:37, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC))

Exponential growth

I posted my reasoning at Talk:Exponential growth. --Fastfission 14:10, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Moving pages

Hi Eleassar777.

I see that you moved Stain (biology) to Staining (biology). One thing to keep in mind if you want to move a page in the future: use the move button at the top of the screen. (It may not appear if you're using a nonstandard Wikipedia skin, however.) This moves the Talk page of the article as well as its editing history to the new location. Otherwise an admin has to come back later and merge the edit history of the old article with that of the new.

Happy editing, --TenOfAllTrades | Talk 20:35, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Patrology

Hi, Eleassar777, I see that you added Patrology to the list of sub-disciplines of Christian theology. Would that more accurately fall as a sub-discipline of Historical theology, listed in the "Methods" section? --Flex 19:38, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Egypt locator map

Hi... sorry about being slow to respond. I'm afraid I'm not quite sure what you mean with your question about the Egypt locator map. Are you saying that Egypt should be shown in green in the small world map in the corner of the locator map? This isn't the way I've done the other locator maps, so I'm not sure if you're asking me to change them all or whether I've misunderstood. -- Vardion 22:06, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Largest number of edits

Er, sorry I didn't explain. The WP:1000 page is supposed to be updated from the CSV. Individiually adding and updating user's edit counts messes up the ranking, since the edit counts are from different times. Unfortunately, the page doesn't get updated often, for various reasons explained on the talk page. -- Scott e^iπ 18:35, Apr 19, 2005 (UTC)

Duck

Your mystery bird is a Muscovy Duck, probably a domesticated bird since wild one's don't have white on the neck and front and are sleeker than these. jimfbleak 16:18, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Gastric acid and juice

Would it not be more accurate to move everything from acid to juice, and on acid page explain it is just hydrochloric acid secreted by stomach, then combined with enzymes etc. it becomes gastric juice? thanks - Bluemoose 10:57, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Noncommercial use on commons?

I noticed you uploaded this picture and say it's free for noncommercial use. Noncommercial materials are not permitted on commons; see this. Since you checked the box on the upload screen (which states I affirm that the copyright holder of this file agrees to release it under the terms of a free license as defined in Commons:Licensing) you need to rectify this by either changing the license or having it deleted. Cheers. CryptoDerk 19:21, May 2, 2005 (UTC)

Also, in an unrelated note, I see you're using the {{GFDL}} for images you have the copyright on. You can use {{GFDL-self}} if it's your image. CryptoDerk 19:24, May 2, 2005 (UTC)

Votes for Deletion: International Chamber Music Festival of Cervo

Hello Eleassar777.

Thank you for assessing favourably my modest entry. I am totally new to Wikipedia and find it a fantastic idea. For this reason, I have offered my contribution with a handful of articles*, trying to follow the guidelines the best I could. I was bound to make scores of mistakes. Now I wonder if and when the "Votes for Deletion" box will disappear: should I do something about it? I have already cleaned it up a few times, added extra information and so on.

You are young and keen and can certainly give me some useful advice. Thanks in advance.

opossumd@yahoo.it

Cervo, Accademia di Cervo, Arnulf von Arnim, David Geringas, Ulf Hoelscher, Jean Sulem, Paul Rosenthal, Klesie Kelly.

COTW

Thanks for the info. I have been voting since the very beginning. Don't really see the point, but meh, won't argue it. Burgundavia 07:34, May 7, 2005 (UTC)

bird-scaring rattle

Did you know has been updated

and a fact from the article bird-scaring rattle, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you have another interesting fact to submit, then please suggest it at the section's talk page.

Collaboration of the week

I did not see that voting restriction. To what time-frame does it apply? I will then decide which votes I remove.--Fenice 12:51, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
This would then mean that every user can vote three times in their lives. Do you know what I mean?--Fenice 13:01, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

COTW Project

You voted for Culture of Ancient Rome, this week's Collaboration of the week. Please come and help it become a featured-standard article.

Did you know?

Did you know has been updated

and a fact from the article Madonna Oriente, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you have another interesting fact to submit, then please suggest it at the section's talk page.

wikipedia:Chemical infobox

Hi, Eleassar, As you added the enigmatic 'and participate' adjunction to note on the very active discussion about the new chembox, may I strongly invite you to give your opinion about it on its discussion page, please? We really would appreciate any feedback you can give. Wim van Dorst 16:04, 2005 May 12 (UTC).

Fair use decision tree

Hi Eleassar, I'm interested in the decision tree you recently added to Wikipedia:Fair use. What is your source for this tree, or what reasoning did you use to construct it? --Duk 22:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, can you point me to the talk page you mentioned (I didn't see anythin on User talk:Zeimusu.--Duk 22:24, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, I still can't find it. I looked through the history of Wikipedia talk:Fair use and didn't see any edits by you or Zeimusu.--Duk 22:31, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

I bet this what you were thinking of? Wikipedia talk:Image sleuthing#10_point_plan_for_judging_fair_use..--Duk 22:40, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

Re: International observance

Nicely done. :-) -- PFHLai 19:00, 2005 May 17 (UTC)

Slovenians vs Slovenes

It'll be my pleasure to detail this argument, but it will take me some time. I'm 'extremely' busy...and stressed this month. I wish I could contribute more right now than minor editing. -BT

Spinifex People

Not 100% in agreement with your move. The reason I created the page with capital letters is because that is the official name of the tribe. You can see an example here: http://www.atns.net.au/biogs/A000197b.htm Cheers SeanMack 12:00, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

I will do as you suggest, although I'm curious why you can change it yourself but I need to request it? Did you go through that process yourself the first time? SeanMack 13:15, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

Hey dude no apologies necessary. I was just trying to make sense of what is protocol and what we can do ourselves. I have now learned how to move or rename a page so it's all good. Keep at it, it was a reasonable edit given normal Wiki naming procedures. Cheers. SeanMack 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

Interwiki links

Halló Eleassar777! Thanks for your message. I was quite busy the last two weeks and made some thousends edits on two testwiki's [1] and [2]. See bugzilla:531#c6 about Template:Task ([3], [4]). I need to leave and will be back begining of June. Do not hesitate to leave a message before. Best regards Gangleri | Th | T 03:22, 2005 May 19 (UTC)

self refs

They are to be avoided. --mav 12:26, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

They are not to be avoided. They are to be avoided when they're not useful. --SPUI (talk) 10:41, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

Human

Hi Eleassar, I reverted your edits to Human, in part because some awkward English was introduced (e.g. "Together with other bodily characteristics, this gives them capacity for a complex and sensitive behaviour ..."); in part because the introduction is a carefully agreed compromise and shouldn't be changed with discussion on talk; and in part because you introduced some material that isn't obviously correct (e.g. that humans in Western countries reach puberty faster because they eat a lot of fat). There were other edits that, while they were okay, were not obvious improvements, and were arguably redundant e.g. replacing "humans are defined by their use of language" to "defined by the ability to develop and use language," and instead of "their organization into complex social structures" you wrote "the ability to organize into complex social structures." But how would humans organize themselves into social structures if they didn't have the ability to do so? It would be helpful in future to add material, if you want to, rather than editing or deleting what's already there without discussing it first. My apologies for the reversions, and I hope you can understand my reasoning. Many thanks, SlimVirgin ^(talk) 20:28, May 19, 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, Eleassar, it was the English that was the problem. I didn't realize it wasn't your first language, and I intend no disrespect. I'm willing to help you with the writing aspect, so I'll go back and take a look to see what can be rewritten if it has to be. The problem was that, along with the good edits, you made so many copy-editing changes that weren't right that it would have taken too long to retain the good edits but revert the copy editing edit-by-edit. I'll take another look when I have more time, bearing in mind the points you raised. I hope that's okay. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 23:32, May 19, 2005 (UTC)

I've taken another look, but there's too much to go through that's mixed up with copy-editing problems. The language apart, I don't agree that some of your changes are improvements: for example, you changed the cutline "two young girls" to "A girl is a female human child, as contrasted to a male child, which is a boy." I don't see the latter as better than the former. Could you say what you feel is actually inaccurate about the article, and we could start with those parts? SlimVirgin ^(talk) 02:54, May 20, 2005 (UTC)

I don't agree about the cutlines, and the page you linked to says only that some editors use whole sentences; there's no requirement to do so, and it's often inappropriate and leads to labored descriptions. The intro can't be changed as the one we have is one of two compromise versions that are currently being decided by others. I don't know what references you're referring to. As for the content changes you've introduced, you'll have to link them to sources, as otherwise we have no way of knowing whether they're correct. If you work in genetics (or are studying it), it would help to know that, and perhaps you'd know where to find good sources. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 21:41, May 20, 2005 (UTC)

Steroid hormone receptor

Steroid hormone receptors and Zn fingers? I have absolutely no idea, but I thought the Zinc finger was just the structural motif that aided in DNA binding, and does not actually determine dimerisation. Correct me if I'm wrong. JFW | T@lk 21:52, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

hello..im ANEM frm MALAYSIA now im study in biomedicine..i need u help to know more about history of giemsa staining.i really appreciate ur help..:) please reply me at my email rhyza_credenza@yahoo.co.uk

Reply at JFW's talk page. --Eleassar777 07:22, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

There is an explanation of this in Stryer, fourth edition, p. 1002. The dimerization takes place at a Zinc cluster, a globular domain where Zn is coordinated with four cysteine residues. This domain has secondary and tertiary structure distinct from a Zinc finger. Osmodiar 09:29, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for information on Boraginaceae

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilisateur:Lviatour

what u talkin about?

SPECT, PET and CAT (CT)

Hi! SPECT, PET and CAT are three different types of tomography, and each of them needs a computer to perform the reconstruction of the slices. SPECT is single photon emission computed tomography where gamma rays are detected at various projections around the patient. PET is positron emission tomography where positrons in the patient annihalate resulting in the emission of two gamma rays at almost opposite directions - these are detected via a ring of detectors around the patient. CAT or CT (the terms are synonomous) involves the transmission of X-rays through the patient. The use of the acronyms CAT and CT for X-ray transmission tomography has pretty much stuck and those are the terms that medical professionals use (in my experience) daily.

Given these are three different types of computed tomography, I think that it's best not to move computed tomography to computed axial tomography. Cheers --AjAldous 19:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

i never knew that! --Anon

stuff

Re: Redirects - it's on my list of things to do; I've already generated some new redirects, but I've got to screen-scrape the ones that people had already cross out first, otherwise it'll keep suggesting redirects that have already been rejected... That's on the to-do list, but it's a fair way down; I'll leave you a note when it's ready, but just in case I forget I'd also suggest watching this page, as that's where I'll list them when they're done.

Re: the eight degrees of Wikipedia search - Thanks for updating this - Looks like the link from Bushland to Tracker was bogus (they wanted the tracker the occupation, but had linked to tracker the software) - I've added Tracker (occupation), and changed Bushland to point to this instead.

Also, thank you for the positive feedback for the link suggester. -- All the best, Nickj (t) 23:54, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Signature

So if you want to have specjal signature, you must first write it like a normal text in article: text_you_want_to_display[[User talk:Eleassar777|my talk]]
into "text_you_want_to_display" you can place:
[[User:Eleassar777|''Eleassar'''''777''']][[Image:Slovenia flag 300.png|20px]]. it will look like:
[[User:Eleassar777|''Eleassar'''''777''']][[Image:Slovenia flag 300.png|20px]]
in real:Eleassar777.
Than you open link preferences (at the top of page). There will be position: "Your nickname (for signatures):". You paste there [[User:Eleassar777|''Eleassar'''''777''']][[Image:Slovenia flag 300.png|20px]][[User talk:Eleassar777|my talk]] and mark also "Raw signatures (without automatic link; please don't use templates for this)". Than choose "Save preferences" button, and than you go to any wiki page and try to use: ~~~. -PioM _EN _DE _PL 19:03, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

You are welcome-PioM

_EN _DE _PL 21:56, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Oh, if you want to make link to your discussion page on other wiki, you don't need to make account there, just make:

Eleassar777 -

but, you must place this(code) there by yourself at the end of your sentence. -PioM _EN _DE _PL 22:02, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

'''Fear''''''''ÉIREANN'''''[[Image:Flag of Ireland.svg|25px]][[user_talk:Jtdirl|(talk)]]

Hi, the commands I used are those above. It was entered in the signature box in preferences. I'm afraid I don't know the different colours you'd need to use. Slan. FearÉIREANN^(talk) 21:21, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Slovenia, Slovenian, Slovenians

Discussion that took place between 16:00 and 18:00 today has been transferred to Talk:Slovenians. --Eleassar777 my talk 21:24, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Another thing I want to point out is that actually it does not matter how incredibly odd the word Slovene is.

Oh, really? I think it matters quite a lot, actually. Perhaps you and XJam don't see this because you are not native-English speaking Slovenians. -BT

The only important thing is that Slovene is one form of English and is still used by some.

And it will continue to be used, alongside Slovenian, often on the same page, in the same article, even by the same author if we let this nonsense continue. The idea that Slovene is a noun and Slovenian is an adjective may seem like a clever idea to subscribe to. However, the reality is that, in practice, in English speaking countries (even England) very few use the term Slovene. I submit that this is precisely the reason why the vast majority of major widely read English language sites who OFTEN publish new articles about Slovenia and Slovenians stick EXCLUSIVELY to employing the term Slovenian as both noun and adjective. Slovenian sounds better, it follows naturally from Slovenian, and it is used by the vast majority of native-English speaking Slovenians and already by the majority of the world. Sources (and there are many, several of which I have posted earlier) will be provided when time permits. BT2 02:27, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I have another idea; we can ask for opinion of other Wikipedians whose mother tongue is English, they are listed here, here or here. We can have an opinion survey or something like that. Some of them will surely respond. Do you find it reasonable?

Close to reasonable, but I want this power in the hands of native-English speaking Slovenians (i.e. people who actually care about Slovenia's image). That said, the wikipedia arbitrator and native-English speaking Nohat does back Slovenian.

By the way, do you say Croat or Croatian? I honestly don't care much which term wins dominance, since Croatia is not my country. Native-English speaking Croatians have had somewhat more luck championing their preferred term though...thanks to greater numbers and more exposure in the media, no doubt. Croat, to me, doesn't sound nearly as clumsy as Slovene. Nevertheless, Croatians I know (native-English speakers) hate it. BT2 16:45, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Eleassar777, you just made my day!!! You've done Slovenia and Slovenians a great service! Thank you. BT2 20:28, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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As for XJaM, wait a bit more before reverting him as I expect that he will be able to understand why Slovenian is better when he will have read my last post. If not, we have a bit of a problem.

Considering past discussions he's had with Nohat and myself (i.e. dismissing all pro-Slovenian evidence as meaningless because a teacher he respects uses 'Slovene'), I doubt he will come around.

Leaving this aside, I'm happy that you have been so persistently and courageously defending your point.

Thanks. I see Slovene as an unnatural and unappealing term today shunned by native-English speaking Slovenians and tomorrow, hopefully, shunned by all Slovenian nationals. I did what I could as a patriotic Slovenian. I do wish I had the resources (patience, time, and energy) to be as gentlemanly as you have been, however. BT2 14:04, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hey BT2 I am also patriotic as you are. I have faught for my country in 1991 and you can't say that I do not love my homeland. You do not live here (of course you are very wellcome here - but you have showed that you are not gentleman at all, because you are constantly reverting other's contributions and such). That's why talk pages are BTW. Why is "Slovene" more clumsy than "Croat" I would like to know. If something is clumsy that it is 'Slovenian' for sure. Nohat is not enough for an arbitrator futher more, because some other English native users said that both terms are equaly valid for this manner. You're leaning against English native speakers, and you think that others can not distinguish a good pronunciation. For me "Slovene" sounds just fine, in fact it sounds pretty well. I have contributed here to English wikipedia a lot, and what do I have now for that. In fact nothing. Not even a slice of contentment, just because of so sublimed users as you are as a native English speaker. If you do not know we are all equal here, the language must not be an obstacle (for me it is - so I invite you to Slovene wikipedia, we can discuss this in my native language or in both languages - English and Slovene, we can also discuss this in Russian or in Romanian if you prefer). Perhaps you'll 'invent' some new terms also in Slovene. --xJaM 23:08, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Srebrenica massacre

No, I'd have nothing against moving the article. In fact, if it fits the naming conventions I support the move. Asim Led 18:38, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Technetium

Scintium by Hoechst ref:

Nature's Building Blocks: An A-Z Guide to the Elements, by John Emsley (New York; Oxford University Press; 2001) ISBN 0-19-850340-7, page 423, "Medical Element", paragraph 2 --mav 23:42, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)