Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Reputation

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The result of the debate was keep. —Korath (Talk) 01:26, Apr 3, 2005 (UTC)

Reputation

del. Dicdef. Wiktionary:reputation already exists. Mikkalai 08:01, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• Delete, duplicate dictionary definition. Megan1967 08:15, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Amazing allegories abound!
    • Awesome alliteration above by Radiant!. --TenOfAllTrades | Talk 15:19, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• It's an album by Dusty Springfield, if that helps. ☺ Uncle G 08:36, 2005 Mar 28 (UTC)
• Keep, this is a better definition than the wiktionary one. Also has potential for expansion. Kappa 10:06, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • How would you expand this, then? Any article on 'reputation of <foo>' should probably be kept at '<foo>'. Radiant_* 12:01, Mar 28, 2005 (UTC)
    • Personally I would expand it to discuss the significance of reputation in various fields such as customer/investor relations, or online communities, and give some specific examples. I could also mention designer brands like Burberry being adopted by street culture, and ending up with a reputation for being worn by hooligans, or the way some people commit suicide rather than live with a dishonorable reputation. Kappa 13:19, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
      • Sounds good to me. Keep, then. Radiant_* 09:50, Mar 29, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Important subject. N-Man 13:32, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Hesitant keep, but only if within the forseeable future someone inserts sociological or politicological research on this aspect human nature. JFW | T@lk 14:04, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Weak keep. Has the potential to discuss sociological phenomena and so forth. Doesn't need the self-referential bits about reputation on Wikipedia, however. --TenOfAllTrades | Talk 15:19, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • What's wrong with the wikipedia bit? I think it's a reasonably well-known website, gets 13 million hits... Kappa 16:44, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
    • Nothing's out-and-out wrong with it; it's just a tad obscure and technical. Although quite a few people know Wikipedia exists, only a very small fraction of that number really have much understanding of how it works. I hate to drag a mention of of anonymous IP addresses into an article on a sociological concept unless there's absolutely no way to avoid it. Mind you, there might be a section about reputation in online communities in general waiting to spring forth, and the effects of anonymity/pseudonymity (is that a word?). I would tend to talk about the reputation system on eBay or Slashdot's karma first. --TenOfAllTrades | Talk 17:27, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Delete dicdef. --Smithfarm
  • You really are supposed to look at the article before voting. Kappa 17:54, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • The sad thing is that I did look. Still think it's a dicdef (albeit with a couple examples appended). Having read the article, I still wouldn't know it is an important concept in sociology. I defer to the consensus, and hopefully someone will expand the article and give this the treatment it evidently deserves. Doesn't the online communities part qualify as original research? --Smithfarm
• Keep; an important concept in sociology, related to matters like face (social custom) and honour -- Smerdis of Tlön 17:55, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, article is fine as currently written. DaveTheRed 18:53, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• What is going with the article is good and well, but for two things I disagree. First, it smacks of original research: no authoritative sources that discuss the notion of "reputation" per se. Second, IMO what we have here now is just a storytelling that uses the word "reputation". Everyone may throw in his favourite case of damaged reputation, but anecdotes do not make it more encyclopedic. I am not a sociologist, but I still fail to see a possibility of an encyclopedic discourse for this word, as well as for its synonym, "opinion", by the way. Mikkalai 20:16, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hear, hear. Another example of this kind of thing is Default (computer science) These articles attempt to go beyond a dicdef by presenting trivia and anecdotes. --Smithfarm

• Keep. —Markaci 2005-03-28 T 22:51 Z
• Keep and expand. But no self-references. -Sean Curtin 00:22, Mar 29, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and let it grow. Sociological significance and all. FreplySpang (talk) 04:02, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Good stub with potential to grow. Capitalistroadster 11:23, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Keep (maybe a weak keep, but so what?). I would suggest a new banner (like POV-banners, etc, placed at top of articles that we wish to get improved further beyond the level of wiktionary definitions.

— I'm not sure the stub-banner would be a good place to state such a wish of ours, but maybe a certain kind of stub-banners? However, that might be complicated to combine with the stub-sorting project. /Tuomas 06:58, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

{{Move to Wiktionary}} contains such a notice already. —Korath (Talk) 01:26, Apr 3, 2005 (UTC)

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