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Dan Savage

Please see my question to you at Talk:Dan Savage. -- Jmabel 05:39, Sep 19, 2004 (UTC) & again... -- Jmabel 18:07, Sep 19, 2004 (UTC)

Don Imus

Hello, I checked the link to the Max X. Miller Online website that you deleted on the Don Imus wikipedia page and it seems that the website and all of it's files are up and running again so I readded the link again. Just out of curiousity what kind of error message were you getting when you tried to access it? Misterrick 00:40, 11 October 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting Archive 5

Hi, sorry, that was a cock-up. With the technical problems we've been having, I didn't realise my answer had gone through the first time; my re-clicking may have been a little overenthusiastic. ;) I've tried to revert back to your version, but I don't think the edit took, so if you can fix it before me that would be great. Mark1 02:32, 18 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

St. John's College--Criticism

I've snipped the Criticism section and moved it to Talk, for further discussion. I think it's completely unacceptable in its present form. Hope you'll help me keep an eye on this. Dpbsmith (talk) 23:16, 18 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I wrote up some stuff based on Charles A. Nelson's Radical Visions. Basically, there are four explanations presented now.

--The official view: an oddly phrased statement about the endowment being insufficient for a building fund.

--Samuel Sass's view: that wasn't the real reason, but he doesn't know (or won't tell) the real reason.

--The Springfield Republican's view: Mellon was annoyed by the political activities of "an associate" of Barr's.

--Charles A. Nelson's view: Mellon gave 'em an inch and they tried to take a mile. More specifically, his intention was to endow a fund for the continuing operations of the St. John's program, or a similar program elsewhere if it appeared that St. John's would never be safe from the Navy, and Barr and Buchanan thought that he would agree, or had agreed, to fund a much more ambitious effort to build a new campus. Dpbsmith (talk) 01:16, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, when you make a disambiguation for a movie please use film (not movie) in accordance with Wikipedia:Naming_conventions#Film_titles. Thanks Arniep 21:50, 27 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Will do. Thanks for the heads-up. --zenohockey 00:37, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I will be proposing some changes to the article on the talk page and I would appreciate some feedback before I make any changes on this controversial topic. I thought you might like some advance notice since you have helped edit it in the past. Rkevins82 21:05, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my page. --Nlu (talk) 02:13, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome...and thanks to you for putting up with 'em 28 times! --zenohockey 02:23, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for reverting vandalism on my page as well--Shanel 20:55, 12 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome! --zenohockey 23:47, 12 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Kitzmiller

Kitzmiller v. Dover, I think more citation's fine... and I accidentally took out the WL citation you added when I reverted the IP before you (who'd changed a word to "popis"). Sorry. The Literate Engineer 05:27, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Okay; I'll add it now. Thanks for your input. --zenohockey 05:28, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Commander Cuckoo Bananas

The name "Commander Cuckoo Bananas" is not directly referring to President Bush. Wikipedia States: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piped_link)

Do not use piped links to create "easter egg links", that require the reader to follow them before understanding what's going on. For example, do not write this:

   [...] and by mid-century the puns and sexual humor were (with only a few exceptions) back in to stay.

The readers will not know Thomas Bowdler is being spoken of until they select the link — in a print version, there is no link to select, and the information is lost. Instead, reference the article explicitly:

   [...] and by mid-century the puns and sexual humor were (with only a few exceptions, see Thomas Bowdler) back in to stay. 

Please do not change Commander Cuckoo Bananas to George W. Bush Tvaughn05 05:10, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Will do. Thanks for the heads-up. --zenohockey 01:00, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Derrida bibliography

Zenohockey, I noticed you put an {{expert}} tag at Jacques Derrida bibliography. I'm not really an expert in that field, but I do have a PhD in a tangentially related one--what exactly did you have in mind? The page is ugly and possibly unnecessary, but it seems pretty accurate. Chick Bowen 03:51, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's accurate, but thoroughly underinclusive, especially with regard to his later works. And no up-to-date online bibliography exists. I plan to add more books when I get the chance, but it'd be nice to have others familiar with his corpus paying attention to the page. --zenohockey 05:53, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ah. Yes, a complete list would take quite some time, and involve some subjective decisions: interviews, collections of essays put together by someone else (which seem to have been included). We might encourage more contributors by abandoning the table, which is annoying. I added a couple. Chick Bowen 14:39, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling

On your User page you write: "this will keep me from acheiving true happiness, " but you mean "this will keep me from achieving true happiness, ". I would correct it but I am getting reproved for altering other people's stuff. By the way, it's sort of like "'i' before 'e' except after 'c' or when pronounced 'ā' as in 'neighbor' or 'weigh' or in the words 'surfeit' 'counterfeit' 'weird' and a few more" (albeit..) ...Carrionluggage 03:26, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Grr... I hate English. Thanks anyway. --zenohockey 03:39, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You are welcome. Tony Blair, too? And don't hockey players put it on the puck, as billiard players do?Carrionluggage 03:58, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The blame, you mean? The ice is usually a more popular target — "too 'chippy,'" "they played basketball in this arena last night," etc.
And I've got no malice against Tony Blair, unless he's responsible for the English language. But British spelling is the worst...the last thing the world needs is silent "u"s. --zenohockey 05:11, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OJ Simpson, Alternative Murder Theories

Thanks for getting the ISBN. I couldn't find it when I made the edit so I just used the Amazon link. Where do you find ISBN numbers on the Net.Ramsquire 17:53, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just search for the title on Amazon.com; I try to find an in-print paperback if at all possible. --zenohockey 21:02, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I think I was half-asleep when I answered this, as you obviously know how to find stuff on Amazon. Once you're on the product page, scroll down to "Product Details," and the ISBN will be there. --zenohockey 06:15, 15 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well you answered it the first time, I just needed to actually look at the page and scroll down. Thanks, anyway. Ramsquire 18:39, 15 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

1916 Olympics

Is there any type of main image you can get for this page to make this look similar to the other pages of the Olympic Games?

Was there ever an official logo / image for these games?

A program cover, official logo, etc.?

I'm bad about the legality of importing images to Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cardshark04 (talkcontribs)

Unused References

Should we really delete unused references? It seems like it would be beneficial to leave them in the article. Is there any corresponding WP policy for this? --Hetar 04:41, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing's wrong with them per se, but the MySpace article uses a number-reference system, so the unused ones were misaligning everything. --zenohockey 04:46, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Aristotle, laws of identity, etc.

Sorry I haven't responded before this. You can find this material in his Metaphysics (105b 12-20).

"He who examines the most general features of existence, must investigate also the principles of reasoning. For he who gets the best grasp of his respective subject will be most able to discuss its basic principles. So that he who gets the best grasp of existing things qua existing must be able to discuss the basic principles of all existence; and he is the philosopher. And the most certain principle of all is that about which it is impossible to be mistaken... It is clear, then, that such a principle is the most certain of all and we can state it thus: 'It is impossible for the same thing at the same time to belong and not belong to the same thing at the same time and in the same respect.'"

--Christofurio 21:24, 11 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And I'm sorry this is the first I've noticed it! It wasn't on my talk page, so I didn't get the notice, so... Anyway, thanks for the enlightenment. --zenohockey 20:30, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dewey

No problem; let me know if you need anything more. I'm not desperately good at it, but I do get paid for it... Shimgray | talk | 19:24, 11 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject U.S. Supreme Court cases

I have recently begun reviving the Supreme Court case project since the founder is inactive. You're welcome to drop on by and help us out if you are still interested. There's also a discussion going at the project's talk page. Enjoy your Memorial Day! btw, I appreciate your rule about responding to comments on your own talk page. I prefer it that way to. --Kchase02 (T) 06:19, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I will—thanks for the heads-up! --zenohockey 02:16, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Stubs

dang dude, how do you find them so fast? anyways. i'm a newbie here. i shall try to remember to tag articles according myself now d: but thanks (: Theconroy 05:53, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for not answering you sooner—I read the message, planned to answer it in the morning, and then forgot about it.
I found this one using VandalFighter, a very handy tool if you're interested in monitoring edits in real-time. Since yours was a newly-created article, it was highlighted, so I investigated further.
Happy editing! --zenohockey 00:51, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Request for speedy rename of category

When making a request to speedy rename a category, please edit the old category and insert {{cfr-speedy|new category name}} into it, so users of the old category may know of the proposed speedy renaming. Thanks! Kimchi.sg 14:50, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Will do—thanks. --zenohockey 01:48, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for fixing references in .007

Can you spell out for me a well-tested recipe for correctly including links to Google Books page images? Dpbsmith (talk) 21:29, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

P. S. In case it wasn't clear, you were right to propose this for deletion. When I first started editing Wikipedia, "substub" was considered a valid reason for deletion by many. When you read the article Wikipedia:The perfect stub article it seems clear that a stub is supposed to imply responsibility for eventually expanding it yourself, and within "a few weeks." You're just inviting anyone else to jump in ahead of you if they feel like it. My interpretation, of course, and one vehemently disputed by some. Dpbsmith (talk) 21:32, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're quite welcome. Assuming you're talking about removing the highlighting, just search the URL for snippet that contains your search terms, and delete it, including the ampersand that preceded it. This works for Google, Amazon, etc.
As fun as it might be to analyze WP:STUB like the Talmud, it's not necessary. It's just simple reasoning: This super-short article needs revisions ASAP. Therefore, I can either: fix it myself, complain about it at the Village Pump, or list it at AFD. I'm not doing the first one until I feel like it (I'm such a loyal contributor), so that leaves VP and AFD. AFD wins because if it still looks like Babelfish vomit after a week, it's obvious no one cares about it, and so "consensus" is automatically attained, if only by apathy (What happened if an article were nominated for deletion and no one fixed it?). --zenohockey 22:05, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gilles Deleuze

Someone calling themself BreakBackMountain has added what looks like a spurious "influenced" by the name of Juliana Eimer. Pretty minor but could find no mention of her name nor any books published by her. BreakBack does not respond. I deleted it and then Breakback put it back. Strange. No big deal, but looks like this user has been warned before. DocFaustRoll 22:51, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, I totally forgot about this. I'm glad you take wikipedia so seriously. It's nice that someone does.

Category:Americans who grew Hemp before 1900

Thank you for not hating this cat. like everyone else.

I thought about making it a list but decided on a cat. because....I don't know why. lol Well if you want to make it into a list go ahead.

grazon 16:12, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome... I might, if I think there's enough to say about the topic to justify it. The problem is that unless somebody goes out and finds a comprehensive reference source, any list/category like this is virtually guaranteed to be very spotty. --zenohockey 05:12, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My Sig

Re this edit: In case you didn't know, you can change your signature at Special:Preferences—that way you can still use ~~~ and ~~~~ (and the servers aren't taxed by having to retrieve User:Timrem/Sig at every page view). --zenohockey 21:52, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have my preferences set to use this signature so that no matter how complicated I make my sig in the future, it will only ever take up 19 spaces. I've seen some nice signatures, but the code for them is so long it takes up a lot of space in the edit box and some users get annoyed. This way, I can have a complicated signature without taking up all that space. If templates do tax the servers too much, I'd be willing to change it back, but I was unaware it could be that much of a problem. timrem 01:43, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jose Melendez

I'm only an occasional contributor so excuse me if this is not the proper forum for asking you questions. You put a marker on the Jose melendez page. I have been expanding it, though at a snail's pace. What do I do to respond to the "candidate for deletion" marker? Should I say something on the page's discussion page or elsewhere? When does the deletion axe fall?

Okay, I now have a username: Jonmay

Wikicite quirk

Thanks for pointing out the quirky tab order in Wikicite. I've fixed it now.--Dave 11:33, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Electroconvulsive therapy

Hello. I saw your editions of the ECT article and I left a note on the talk page. The note, paraphrased, says this: YOu recently replaced the quotation from ECT patient Barbara C. Cody with a quotation from ECT patient Kitty Dukakis. There is nothing wrong with adding the Dukakis quotation. However, completely deleting Cody's mention, just because she isn't as famous or because you or other people disapprove of her comments is unethical in the context of Wikipedia.

I strongly believe you violated Wikipedia policy by doing that. Please reply.

Chris Dubey 21:22, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I will reply momentarily on the ECT talk page.
(Note that it is customary to leave notes for users on their talk pages; this flashes a notice when a note is left.) --zenohockey 01:39, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Again, thank you for your comments. I may continue the discussion on the ECT talk page and our talk pages, but I am retiring as an editor. The incident on that article has indeed been upsetting to me. I admit, I have a very partisan opinion on that topic, mainly because I've actually seen it and its subjects in a hospital setting. I suppose that if it hadn't been the ECT discussion, it would have been another that would have inspired me to leave. Wikipedia has become more of an addiction and displeasure for me than I like. Although amusing, I'm not happy either about the Stephen Colbert movements of truthiness and wikiality. I'm going to continue my work in an independent medium, such as my Webzine. You can write me again on the discussion pages, but I won't be using my account soon after that.
Chris Dubey 15:35, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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St. John's College

Based on the talk page for SJC, it looks like you're a student or alum. Are you currently enrolled? Just curious, as I'm a senior in Annapolis. Veritek83 07:31, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the delay... I read this, promised myself I'd respond the next day...and then forgot about it. I was a freshman at Annapolis for about a semester, then left...it was not the place for me, it seems. Judging by the school's high attrition rate, it doesn't seem I'm alone. But I enjoyed my time there. --zenohockey 17:31, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Request

Dear Zenohockey

I have seen your works on Jean-Luc Nancy. I would like to ask you for a favor. Would you please take a look at the theory section of Abbas Kiarostami. I am new to philosophy of films. It is very kind of you of you could help on this section. Thanks a lot for your time. Sangak 21:18, 3 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the original draft I wrote: [1]. There have beem some changes by some users afterwards. However some poeple think the quality is decreasing while others think it is increasing. Sangak 09:02, 5 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Part of interwikitmp-grp

Hi! re: Tfd: W2c... This is part of the nascent Wikipedia:WikiProject template sharing, and another two we've never quite dignified with a name or formal write up yet. This is quite useful for refering to commons locations in documentation or templates that need work on all sisters, no matter which sister such is copied too. Such work is too time intensive as it is.
   Unlike most sister projects the commons does NOT have an abbreviation which works on itself like [[W:whatever ]]. Ral315 discovered 'W2' is much the same nightmare, and for similar reasons, this one best not be messed with... not to mention all the templates it will break. No reason to create work. Suggest you unnominate it ASAP. Thanks. Best regards. // FrankB 05:07, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay... but Ral315 has voted to delete W2c. In any event, the reason I nominated it was that the only textual content was "To be deleted." This, combined with the cryptic name, suggested that the whole thing was an abandoned newbie experiment. I now know this isn't the case, but the discussion that's happening is at least getting your nascent project some popularity; it spurred you to put some documentation and removed the confusing "To be deleted" bit; and the TfD discussion may well generate new ideas.
Given the lively and not one-sided debate that has emerged, I think I'll decline to unnominate the template. I am sorry, though, if I've inconvenienced your project. --zenohockey 23:08, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]