Talk:Juan Ginés de Sepúlveda

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Title[edit]

The original title was indeed in Latin, and published under the pseudonym "Demócrates Alter" - "Democritus Junior" by Sepúlveda. --129.173.172.174 20:03 13 Jan 2007 (UTC)

I assume Tratado sobre las Justas Causas de la Guerra is a modern Spanish translation of his De Iustis Belli Causis. If so, the text should probably reflect the original, Latin title, but I won't change the article until I know for sure that these are the same work. --Iustinus 18:48, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Religious status[edit]

Sepulveda was NOT a Dominican! He was a secular thinker and humanist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by orique (talk • contribs)

I can't speak to whether or not Sepúlveda was a Dominican, but he definitely was a Catholic. Perhaps "secular thinker" is a relative term? Can you provide a citation? (I myself don't have a specific citation, at least not a quick and easy one one, but I've been browsing his works online—there's a handy list of online versions here—and it's clear from those. For instance, he is listed as being a Doctor of Theology, and in one of his works he rails against Martin Luther.)

In any case, whether or not he was a dominican, there was no reason to delete the "see also" section and the interwiki links, so I will revert your changes. Please discuss here if you intend to redo them. --Iustinus 18:59, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I had the same arguement wiht a professor. I called de Sepúlveda a Jesuit, which is wrong. My professor wrote me that he was a "normal" diocesan priest. BUT! On the spanish page of de Sepúlveda I found the mention that he was as DOMINICAN! And the author of the page seems to be a serious source! cf. http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Gin%C3%A9s_de_Sep%C3%BAlveda —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.78.136.132 (talk) 07:51, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The BBC's Racism: A History (Part I - The Colour of Money - about 9:30 mins into it) states quite clearly that he was a Jesuit, and he was opposed by a Dominican. Watch it on YouTube. elvenscout742 (talk) 12:54, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sepulveda was definitely not a Dominican or a Jesuit. He was a humanist who lived most of his life in Italy. Here is a brief discussion of Sepulveda in a leading scholar's history of political thought:

http://books.google.com/books?id=dyzDnCLWJugC&pg=PA168&lpg=PA168&dq=Sepulveda+Dominican+Jesuit&source=bl&ots=pFb3JVGSNm&sig=agHfSXNXv9x0q9UO__odxhMdyBk&hl=en&ei=MabJScbgEcWktwf3gvyeAw&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=result#PPA142,M1

This review in a peer-reviewed journal says that he is a secular priest (thus not a Dominican or a Jesuit):

http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/bmcr/2004/2004-07-27.html

I can easily get more for you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cyrusrex1545 (talk • contribs) 03:39, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Argumentation[edit]

De Sepúlveda was fully in the school of natural philosophy - he translated Aristoteles! He argued fully in the traditional way of natural law; but also did his opponents like de Las Casas or de Vitoria. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.78.136.132 (talk) 07:48, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Today?[edit]

Is the comment about how Sepulveda's views would be viewed today, using the anachronistic term "racist," really useful? If so, it would be good to find a legitimate source or scholar which uses this language. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cyrusrex1545 (talk • contribs) 05:13, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't seem anachronistic at all. And nothing is more fitting than 6 years of ignoring this guy and his article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.212.175.30 (talk) 13:31, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]