Talk:Ranters

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>"though many of them were sincere and honest in their attempt to express the doctrine of the Divine immanence, they were in the main unable to hold the balance."

>"Their vague pantheism landed them in moral confusion, and many of them were marked by fierce fanaticism."

>"The truth is that the positive message of the [Quakers] helped to save England from being overrun with Ranterism."

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Unsupported assertions like this do not exactly help in the bid to produce NPOV articles. I have, consequently, deleted them. R Lowry 04:48, 10 Jan 2004 (UTC)

The article contains the following paragraph:

>In the mid-19th century, the name was often applied to the Primitive Methodists, with reference to their crude and often noisy preaching. Even Gerrard Winstanley, the leader of another English dissenting group called the Diggers, ascribed to Ranter principles "a general lack of moral values or restraint in worldly pleasures."

The second sentence is a non-sequitur. Winstanley was a 17th century writer, with no particular views on the Primitive Methodists. The two points should appear separately. 50.11.221.142 (talk) 00:50, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Could someone with an understanding of this subject add a line explaining why they were called "Ranters"? I think most casual readers come with that question in mind, but the article as currently written doesn't address it, and the context doesn't suggest an explanation either. One assumes a "ranter" is a street evangelist, as the article acknowledges in the case of Primitive Methodists, but it also points out that there is no connection between these two groups except for a coincidental epithet. So I'm left with the question. Laodah 20:32, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Reorganizing and rewriting sections according to Reliable Sources[edit]

I'm putting in some effort to re-organize this article and find reliable sources. I'm new to this, so hopefully I'm not stepping on any toes or messing it up for anyone that was invested in this article. --Erie Bard (talk) 03:35, 9 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No. I've been following your edits here and they all look pretty good so far. Thanks for putting the effort in and for improving this article! Keep up the good work and enjoy! Good luck, warshy ^(¥¥) 17:07, 9 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am removing the following two sentences from the article:

"Ranters were often associated with nudity, which they may have used as a manner of social protest as well as religious expression as a symbol of abandoning earthly goods."
"Ranters were accused of antinomianism, fanaticism and sexual immorality, and imprisoned until they recanted."

Both had a "citation needed" from way back in 2015. I have found absolutely no evidence for the first claim. I should probably also remove the "Nudity in Religion" link in the See Also section... The second sentence simply restates what has already been covered in previous paragraphs and includes unsubstantiated claims. Although I have found evidence of Ranters being imprisoned, there is no mention of forced recanting.--Erie Bard (talk) 02:52, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with all your edits and support them. Thanks again for all your efforts in researching the issues and supporting them with reliable sources. Keep up the good work! Thanks, warshy ^(¥¥) 19:13, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 28 December 2021[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 07:08, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ranter → Ranters – Articles about religious groups usually have a plural title, e.g. Quakers, Puritans, Muslims. Rublov (talk) 04:50, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nominator. JIP | Talk 17:38, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Should be pretty straightforward, I'd imagine... Thank you, warshy ^(¥¥) 19:15, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom and the related page Seekers. Randy Kryn (talk) 20:52, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support per WP:PLURAL. Rreagan007 (talk) 03:02, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:11, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.