Talk:Russell Hoban

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Re: 'American'-> US which User:Rossami did on this page:

[.... Removed unsigned violation of WP:BLP (on sight). ---NYScholar (talk) 03:31, 23 March 2009 (UTC)][reply]

It's hard to conceive of any circumstances under which "American writer" or "American filmmaker" or any such construction could be "ambiguous"; i.e., not mean an inhabitant of the United States of America. I'm Canadian, and I think so! American is just the adjective referring to people from the USA in that context. It is 100% pure English phrasing, and 'US writer' or 'US filmaker' sounds weak by contrast.

Were it possible to confuse this with another meaning of 'American' (an inhabitant of South America, a native American Indian) it would NOT be in THIS context where it's clearly referring to the country of origin in the same sense as 'Canadian writer', 'British filmmaker', etc.

Encyclopedias use "American xxx", including the Britannica (http://www.britannica.com/eb/article?eu=84515&tocid=0&query=kate%20chopin&ct= -- "American novelist and short story writer"); Encyclodepia.com: (http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/c/chopin-k1.asp -- "American author..."); The Columbia encyclopedia (http://www.bartleby.com/65/ch/Chopin-K.html -- "American author"), etc. etc.

See Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (US vs American). Lots of people disagree. But even if only a few people disagree, why would we deliberately choose the less precise term? Rather than argue about it here, I am only going to insist that you pipe the link. Rossami 16:31, 14 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Cremation[edit]

I've removed the statement about the date and place of Hoban's cremation, because I can't find a usable source for that information. It was originally added by User:Thoughtcat, with a reference to a blog post which I happen to know is accurate since I was there, but of course that wouldn't be considered a reliable source for WP purposes-- and in any case Thoughtcat later removed the blog link, apparently (per edit history) after being asked to do so in personal communication from "a mourner". The only other sources I could find were 1. this page on russellhoban.org, which is a fan site that was granted official status by Hoban's family, but it doesn't have a citation for that information either so I'm not sure it is really usable for this, and 2. findagrave.com, which seems to be crowdsourced and not necessarily reliable. ←Hob 20:25, 19 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps I should have started by saying that I'm not sure that information was necessarily super-relevant for a Wikipedia article anyway. ←Hob 07:40, 20 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, there was no reason to have it. —Mark Dominus (talk) 10:07, 20 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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