Talk:September 12

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September 12

Elizabeth Barrett Browning and Robert Browning

379 – Yax Nuun Ahiin I took the throne as the ruler (ajaw) of the Mayan city of Tikal.
1846 – The English poets Robert Browning and Elizabeth Barrett Browning (pictured) eloped to Italy, marrying in secret to avoid their disapproving families.
1933 – Hungarian-American physicist Leo Szilard conceived of the idea of the nuclear chain reaction while waiting for a traffic light in Bloomsbury, London.
1948 – The People's Liberation Army launched the Liaoshen campaign, the first of the three major military campaigns during the late stage of the Chinese Civil War.
1995 – Hurricane Ismael formed off the southwest coast of Mexico; it went on to kill over a hundred people in the country.

Parsley Peel (d. 1795)
Alice Ayres (b. 1859)
Ion Agârbiceanu (b. 1882)
Steve Biko (d. 1977)

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Frederick Samuel Modise[edit]

I found a several problems with this entry. First, Frederick Samuel Modise doesn't have an article. Second, the church listed in the article, International Pentecostal Holiness Church, was not founded by Frederick Samuel Modise but by Abner Blackmon Crumpler in 1897. The author here probably meant the International Pentecostal Church.[1] Third, the International Pentecostal Church also does not have an article here. Events listed here should have a related article, and this particular entry failes that test. Rklawton 18:28, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ulyanovsk's Conception Day[edit]

The Associated Press has an article on this subject. http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-russia-day-of-conception,0,6813988.story The long and short of it is that a region near Moscow, Russia (Ulyanovsk) has announced "the Day of Conception" for the third year running to aid in the nation's birthrate crisis. "Day of Conception" was announced by their governor and it gives couples time off from work to procreate. Pakopako 14:52, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Non-Notable[edit]

I may be new to the this whole Wikipedia thing, but is it really a notable fact that Lucasarts will be releasing Lego Star Wars 2 on this day in 2006? Perhaps if it was a game on par with Half Life 2, or something of that nature. --TheTriumvir 12:51, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I came here to write almost the same thing. A few of the 2005/6 events seem too irrelevant to me. Benceno 17:51, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Article V of the NATO agreement is invoked for only the second time" is dubious.[edit]

NATO at its own website (and Wikipedia at NATO#After the September 11 attacks) claims that September 11th was the first time article V was invoked. To say it was the second needs a strong citation to support it. --Rogerb67 (talk) 01:17, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Removed as unsupported. -- Mufka ^(u) ^(t) ^(c) 01:20, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes but you didn't need to remove the whole thing, or do it quite so quickly! It's dubious whether it was the second time - it did occur and it is notable - as is Kennedy's speech regarding catholicism according to John_F._Kennedy#1960_presidential_election. Reverting pending further discussion, which was th epoint of the tag. --Rogerb67 (talk) 01:27, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The event does not link to an article that supports it in full. Per WP:DAYS it should be removed. We don't put {{fact}} or {{dubious}} tags on date pages because refs are not added to date pages. -- Mufka ^(u) ^(t) ^(c) 01:34, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK I didn't know that. Reverting, removing only the hospital entry and the reference to the second time, on the basis that the others are notable and verifiable per above.. --Rogerb67 (talk) 01:38, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Conflict: Oh, and the Kennedy statement doesn't seem particularly notable in the long term. I can't imagine a way that it has had a long-standing impact on anything. -- Mufka ^(u) ^(t) ^(c) 01:41, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

From what I can see the linked articles still do not mention the date September 12. -- Mufka ^(u) ^(t) ^(c) 01:49, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK I won't object to its removal on that basis. --Rogerb67 (talk) 02:05, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kennedy[edit]

Separated out from Article V discussion above.

Catholicism in politics was a big deal then - Kennedy becoming president paved the way for it not to be, and this speech was important in that. See e.g. [[2]]. The very fact that the transcript is repeated in full so many years later argues for its importance. --Rogerb67 (talk) 02:02, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't seem like a watershed moment in world history to me. If its impact was widely felt, I would think there would not have been any discussion of Mitt Romney's religion in the 2008 election. I won't remove it if it is added back because at least some thought has gone into it. -- Mufka ^(u) ^(t) ^(c) 02:11, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. You're entitled to your opinion, but a few google searches suggests many others disagree - and the fact that Mitt Romney's speech was called his "Kennedy Speech" by many - including an article in Time [[3]] - reinforces the point. Cheers, and thanks for your help in understanding the criteris aor these pages (I only came initially to fix a link!). --Rogerb67 (talk) 02:57, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

United Nations Day for South-South Cooperation[edit]

United Nations Day for South-South Cooperation is listed under the September 12 date article as a holiday/observance. However, in the UNRIC article, it is listed under December 19. Can someone please resolve the discrepancy? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 12:10, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]