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Taku, please don't tell people to post personal essays to meta.wikipedia.org. This is not its purpose, meta is for information about Wikipedia. We are trying to clean up the place. --Eloquence 23:27 Feb 21, 2003 (UTC)

Some, including me, try to clean up but some resist it. We can't hide the fact that meta-wikipedia is currently used for persoanl essaies. If we do, it is not fair. -- Taku 23:29 Feb 21, 2003 (UTC)

Nope, Jimbo has made it clear that personal essays are not acceptable, and he has unilaterally deleted dozens of them. This is not a matter of fairness. --Eloquence 04:31 Feb 22, 2003 (UTC)

Good news. Then just do discourage people not to post a personal essaies to meta -- Taku 04:33 Feb 22, 2003 (UTC)


Your stub on "Wall of 1.03 million yen and 1.30 million yen" is promising. Do you have time to expand it? Other contributions on social norms and the role of women in Japanese society would also be appreciated. For instance, there are currently no articles on such importance topics as office ladies, women's colleges, the role of housewifes in care of the elderly, changing attitudes to child rearing (including corporal punishment) and the apron as an enduring symbol of domesticity. /LK

Yeah, the problem is I am not a laywer. Living in the United States, I am not so sure about this social issue but sure it is quite interesting topic, though. I can't promise but if I have time, I will do more research, or hopefully someone knowing well about this may expand this. -- Taku 03:55 Feb 22, 2003 (UTC)

The legal technicalities are not the most important parts. Write things based on your knowledge of Japanese society. There's not much of it on Wikipedia, so your contributions are welcome. The topics I mentioned above are a possible starting point. /LK


I don't see anything wrong with the history of Japanese proverbs. Are you using Internet Explorer 5.5 or later? Did you try Ctrl+F5 to force a reload? --Brion 04:00 Feb 22, 2003 (UTC)

Sorry I can't repulicate the bug. Strange. Anyway, thanks. -- Taku 04:03 Feb 22, 2003 (UTC)

Well, can you describe it at least? I can't begin to tell if there's a problem that needs fixing if I don't even know what it looked like. --Brion 04:32 Feb 22, 2003 (UTC)

I think I just did reload simply. What I encountered is despite I edited the article the history page didn't reflect it regardless minor or major changes. Recent Changes reflected my edit with summary. Since I can't replicate, I can't explain more. Sorry for confusing -- Taku 04:35 Feb 22, 2003 (UTC)


For some reason, I can't edit village pump. For about half hour, I have keep trying but always I got timeout. Anyway, so I just put my comment here about authorbot issue. If someone successfully edit village pump, I will appreciate him to put my comment there.

First of all, stub articles have inadequate information but the purpose of them is to provide a good starting point to write an article. Finding out the birth date and death date is a tedious job and particularly putting Japanese characters are difficult to job for those who can't type Japanese. Secondly, we already have the List of Japanese authors. It means soon or later we will have articles for all of them. There is no reason to postpone making articles unless we are unsure we need such a article. Yeah, we need a little more at least, where he/she was born and died. I think I can put such information because I have it.

Yeah, maybe bots are a little too overwhelming. I will put stubs by hand if we can agree with having stub articles for Japanese authors.

Taku, Have you read Wikipedia:Bots? It's a useful page on this issue. -- sannse 16:41 Feb 22, 2003 (UTC)

Yes. I believe my bot is useful, harmless and not server hog.

A global hint: please put a space between commas and years in dates. That is, today is February 22, 2003, not February 22,2003. (I'm asking now so we don't have to make the change in all the Japanese literature stubs.)

Understood. -- Taku 17:17 Feb 22, 2003 (UTC)


Chinese Revolution of Liberation is not a stub, please see Wikipedia:The perfect stub article. --Eloquence 02:25 Feb 24, 2003 (UTC)

I know. Sorry I had some reason to make an article. Anyway I will put much more in minutes -- Taku

Please look at what I did to Pacific Theater. I hope I got the facts right. Danny 05:31 Feb 24, 2003 (UTC)

I think you just did great job that makes my poor writing an adequate encyclopedia artcile. Actually, I need more research because I am not so sure. Definetelly we need experts in Japanese history. -- Taku 05:48 Feb 24, 2003 (UTC)


Regarding talkpage of Japanese internment. I think I removed text for technical glinch. I am sorry about that. I got timeout several times. And I can't edit that page any more. Here is my comment I tried to put. But yeah, maybe my comment is not so essential. I tried your talk page, but that page was uneditable too.

I know mav explained perfectly, maybe I don't have to but my understand about NPOV is that NPOV is not POV that makes things nutral. Here is my example. If you say, "Some terrorits destroyed some building in NY called WTC.". This is a perfect fact and NPOV, but it may leave impression they are bad guys. If we want to make them look not bad, we have to say, how USA is a bad country, so it should be punished. It is POV in an attempt to make things nutral. And again, there is no dispute whether we should put POV or not. It should be noted that we can always mention there is certain POV. I agree that we should mention about POV but that mention should not be POV. -- Taku 21:18 Feb 24, 2003 (UTC)
"Some terrorists destroyed some building in NY called WTC." - You could improve this as "Some men destroyed some building in NY called WTC." No need to call the men terrorists, let the reader decide what they were for themselves.
(I know we should not discuss this here but since I can't edit talkpage ack!) You think they are not terrorits? They are terrorits by definition, if they don't want to be called so. Geoge Washignton may be a terrorit in definition.

For those of us who can't read Japanese, could you translate the titles of the works in the Japanese literature pages you're creating? Thanks. Vicki Rosenzweig 23:13 Feb 24, 2003 (UTC)

I know that. I will do translating later. -- Taku 23:17 Feb 24, 2003 (UTC)


I deleted Hirohito and moved Hirohito of Japan there. Is that what you wanted? Tuf-Kat

Nein! Hirohito is easier to type TUF! たくや! What are you doing or trying to do with my Wikipede image?! -'Vert

??? Sorry I don't see what you are saying.

??? Never mind - dont forget to sign your name; use the "3 tilde trick" press "~" 3 times, and your name appears. like this: ~~~:'Vert


The name Emperor Ninko does not need an apostrophe. Only vowels, y, w, and n followed by "ん" need it. -- Nanshu

Really? Could you show me the convert system you are talking about. I have currently been looking for the formal romanization for en-wikipedia. Of course, there should be some exception but necessary some formal rule is a need. If you have good understanding about this, I will appreciate. Also, remember you can discuss the title of an article in its talkpage as well and you should get more comments from peoeple than from persoanl talkpage. -- Taku 01:00 Mar 2, 2003 (UTC)

This system. Here is a list of Japanese romanization systems. I don't know which is official, but I think that will help you. -- Nanshu 01:07 Mar 2, 2003 (UTC)

Great! I will do some research about romaji and put much more to romaji article. Then hopefully we can decide convension about romanization. If you are sure, you can go to rename the title of an article. Anyway, thanks a lot. -- Taku 01:13 Mar 2, 2003 (UTC)



move talk regarding fuji


I am puzzled by your recombination of new town and list of planned communities. The practice AFAIK on wikipedia is to separate lists from articles, especially as they get long (which planned communities will. (They were separated some time ago for that reason). dml

What's AFAIK? Anyway, the article new town is still short so it is more appreciate to merge them into one article because they are essentially the same thing. In the future, if the comibed article gets too long, then separate it. -- Taku 23:59 Mar 9, 2003 (UTC)


Move a question from arthur to Wikipedia:reference desk