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Does the term "black powder small arms" mean that the bullet and the powder are separate, not parts of a cartridge? - Patrick 02:54 Feb 20, 2003 (UTC)

Nope, it means that a saltpeter based propellant is used rather than newfangled smokeless powders like cordite and other nitrocellulose-nitroglycerin concoctions.--Polyparadigm 00:04, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Unfortunately, terms like "black powder pistol" are often intended to mean firearms that don't use fixed metallic cartridges. It's badly imprecise (plenty of hobbyists still use metallic cartridges loaded with black powder--I know a guy who's trying to run his AR-15 on it), but that's common usage. Elmo iscariot (talk) 14:21, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Incorporated and wikified the contents of Muzzleloading, reasons as per Talk:Muzzleloading -- Graibeard 10:24, 25 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

What do you think of replacing the picture of the mortar with someone shooting a black powder rifle?--Cincinnatusidahoensis 04:20, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The current picture illustrates the point better than someone just shooting a gun. A picture of someone loading such a gun with ball or powder could be good, but might be hard to see at the resolution of a small photo Jrbray 06:10, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

the article is about muzzleoading small arms, not mortar artillery[edit]

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Surely someone was trying to be humorous. That round is an artillery cartridge. US ATF would laugh your way to jail if you claimed your 60-mm mortar was a muzzleloader under Title I (gun control act) and not a destructive device under Title II (national firearms act). Naaman Brown (talk) 23:25, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Better explanations[edit]

Types of Muzzleloaders by MuzzleloadingBasics. There should be more explanations of muzzleloader types. Komitsuki (talk) 12:19, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Muzzleloading artillery[edit]

Why does this page only cover small arms? They've insisted on merging the articles on "Rifled muzzle-loader" (an artillery piece) and "muzzle-loading rifle" (a rifled shoulder arm) into one page, but why isn't there any page at all on muzzle-loading artillery in general, or smoothbore muzzleloading artillery specifically? This page ought to cover both, or there should be a dedicated page on muzzleloading artillery, and this page should provide a hatnote or link to that page. I mean, this says basically nothing about artillery, how a muzzle-loading cannon is loaded, implements, tactics....these would make a great page..45Colt 01:39, 9 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

And sorry, but "most guns" after the 1830's didn't use Minie-balls. Most RIFLED guns did, which were increasingly popular for military service, but not universal; there were huge stocks of smoothbore muskets still around, many converted to percussion locks from flintlocks, etc, and smoothbores still being made for less modernly-inclined nations. Using a Minie-ball from an unrifled barrel is a bad idea. And what about muzzle-loading shotguns?.45Colt 01:45, 9 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References:[edit]

So, all the information on this page is covered in the articles ""Knight Muzzleloading Rifles looks to close production" and "Hunting drives today's blackpowder market"? Must be much more thorough articles than the typical ones you see, to (slightly) cover artillery, loading techniques, muzzleloader history, the whole works, all in two articles whose main focus is a ML rifle distributor going out of business and that most blackpowder guns and accessories are sold to people who use them to hunt rather than to target shoot with. Yessir, veeery in-depth background given on those articles, must be....45Colt 02:53, 9 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You're right! I give you permission to find some better sources - post back here when you've done so. -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 17:39, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Confusing layout[edit]

It's a little confusing that there's a section called "modern usage" and then a subsection called "muzzleloading > modern use". Shouldn't these be combined somehow? 2A01:4C8:1487:ACB5:1:1:5555:4AEC (talk) 07:46, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]