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Post-rock[edit]

Though this album and its follow-up Laughing Stock defies categorization and is all about sound and texture, experimentation and genre-bending, it simply can't be labeled as post-rock, since the genre didn't exist back then, even though they were highly influential to the genre. It's just like naming an artist from the 70s 'alternative rock'. This album and laughing stock is, if anything, art rock, through and through.Revan ltrl (talk) 00:51, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think it should actually be considered Ambient music. There's nothing art rock at all about this or Laughing Stock. It's too minimalist.--Degree9 (talk) 15:34, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ambient? Have you ever tried putting this on as background music? I've been woken up by the loud bits on more than one occasion! --Andybak (talk) 13:19, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing art rock at all? Excuse me, read this page: art rock, and realize that the minimalism-pomp-spectrum is of no consequence to that genre. This album and Laughing Stock are art-rock through and through, which the combination of the current, clumsy genre-box shows. I'm adding art rock. That's how the genre came to be, because of such artists. The lack of electronics should really exclude ambient music, and classical and jazz aren't saying anything about the album other that it is art rock. Just like Scott Walker isn't folk just because he's using mandolines.Revan ltrl (talk) 16:06, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I'm coming late to this argument, but you could argue that the album can't be labelled as post-rock because the label didn't exist back then. Who comes up with labels like post-rock, art-rock and such like anyway? Halmyre (talk) 06:50, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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New Wave?[edit]

There is absolutely nothing new wave-y about this album, no idea what its doing on here Saejal (talk) 20:50, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's sourced from this article that lists it alongside many classic New Wave alums. But arguably the article is misquoting of the sense of the article, because this article directly states "This isn’t Talk Talk’s defining new wave record – that came earlier on with 1984’s It’s My Life. Instead, Spirit of Eden is important in the story of the genre because it bridges the gap to what came afterwards: you can hear its enormous influence everywhere from Radiohead and Spiritualized to These New Puritans."

I'd say the article could certainly clarify this in paragraph 2. I'd be glad to try that edit, or let you give it a shot.

But should it be listed in the genre New wave music? I'm actually not sure. What do you do with an album that certainly was birthed via a genre, is "important in the story of the genre," but defies that genre's convention? In? or out? Brad606 (talk) 17:42, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]