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On 13 Janurary 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from List of heads of state of Lithuania. The result of the discussion was not moved.

List of Lithuanian rulers[edit]

Supreme Council or Supreme Soviet. I knew, that such usage Supreme Soviet exists and the article about it exists too. However the thing is bit different here. After 11 Mart, 1990 Lithuanian institutions unofficially in English were called: representative institution was called Parliament and the leader of both the Parliament and the State was called President. These terms were common and even prevailed in Western media. However official designations (used, for example, in translations of legislative acts) were the Supreme Council and the Chairmen of the Supreme Council. Being without any doubt heritage of Soviet times, these terms after 1990-03-11 were directly translated from Lithuanian language, not using Russian term Soviet (cf. names of parliaments in Ukraine, China). The main thing is, that such usage existed officially, and we shouldn't use different parallel names, even if they are more common and understandable.
Linas 07:22, 2004 May 24 (UTC)

King Mindaugas II[edit]

From 9 July 1918 until 2 November 1918 Mindaugas II was a king-elect of the Kingdom of Lithuania. He never reached to rule, but must also be considered a head of state as long as one regards 16 Feb 1918 to be the day of Lithuania's independence. --Jakro64 13:01, 12 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Is this article really a stub? Andres 12:35, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Yes it is - it is missing information in section "Lithuania as part of Imperial Russia". Also, section "Lithuania as part of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth" is incomplete. Knutux 17:09, 2004 Jul 13 (UTC)

Merging[edit]

About merging "Early dukes of Lithuania" in to Early rulers (legendary and otherwise) 1. Dukes mensioned in "Early dukes of Lithuania" wasn't rulers of Lithuania. Some of them is Samogitians for egzample, but main thing is that in 1219 was no Lithuania state and in list said - dukes of Deltuva, Samogitia etc. 2. In case of merging real persons will be puted in same place with fantasies of XVI a. as Rimgaudas. [author of "Early dukes of Lithuania"]

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Requested move 13 January 2023[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved(non-admin closure) Spekkios (talk) 07:34, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

List of heads of state of Lithuania → ? – Please place your rationale for the proposed move here. Hugo.arg (talk) 16:40, 13 January 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 06:46, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This article is a random list of very different persons who administrated the current territory of the Republic of Lithuania. In my opinion, it could exist only renamed somehow accordingly ("List of rulers of the modern Lithuanian territory" or something). The Grand Duchy of Lithuania is not the same as the Republic of Lithuania. Is was made by multiple nations, had a very different territory. Not to mention that kings of Poland were "rulers of Lithuania" exactly in the same manner as tsars of Russia: they had a symbolic title of "The Great Duke of Lithuania", but somehow I don't see mentioned tsars. General Commissioners and First Secretaries of the Central Committee there again administrators appointed to rule a subdivison of another country. Hugo.arg (talk) 16:40, 13 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose anything with "modern Lithuanian territory". This is not just about territory, it concerns countries that claim to be successors of each other. The fact that Polish kings are included in the list is obvious because Poland and Lithuania were partner countries in a commonwealth. Poland had not annexed Lithuania like Russia did. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:40, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely the content is out of the scope of the article. Generalbezirk Litauen wasn't Lithuanian state afaik, and not a states but administrative occupational divisions, so leaders of it certainly weren't heads of state. Likewise First Secretaries of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Lithuania weren't heads of state, but leaders of the party. One solution is to move the article under the new name (List of rulers of Lithuania or List of leaders of Lithuania). Also List_of_heads_of_state_of_Lithuania#Generalbezirk_Litauen_(1941–1944) should be removed altogether Marcelus (talk) 11:53, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.