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Emigrate vs. Immigrate[edit]

Emigrate means "to move out of" one place, from assimilated form of ex "out" (see ex-) + migrare "to move". Immigrate means to "move into" a new place, from assimilated form of in- "into, in, on, upon" + migrare "to move". So the Pilgrims were moving into Amsterdam. If the sentence was saying that they were moving out of England, then "emigrate" would be correct. But as it stands now, the sentence says that they were moving into Amsterdam, and therefore "immigrate" is correct. — Dilidor (talk) 15:43, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

So why did you change it back to 'emigrate'? CoatGuy2 (talk) 15:46, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Pardon me, I was misremembering the sentence. It reads "the congregation left England". They moved "out of" England, meaning that they emigrated. ―Dilidor (talk) 15:48, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The bit about leaving England is the first of two predicates in a compound sentence, and the context to decide the immigrate/emigrate question is the following italicised prepositional phrase in the second predicate: '...and _________ed to the Netherlands...' It would be perfectly acceptable for you to rewrite the sentence as 'In 1608, the congregation emigrated from England to the Netherlands, settling first in Amsterdam and then in Leiden.' But what you have now is incorrect. CoatGuy2 (talk) 15:52, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

'Native American' vs 'Indian'[edit]

@Dilidor: Please cease changing 'Native American' and 'indigenous' to 'Indian' in New England history articles as you did here. We've already discussed this at Talk:Roger Williams#"Native American" vs "Indian", etc.. The Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(ethnicities_and_tribes)#Naming_conventions:_Native,_Indigenous,_Indian,_etc. guidelines state Native American in most Wikipedia articles and categories refers to the Indigenous peoples of the United States..., so please stop pushing for your contentious preference in terminology. CoatGuy2 (talk) 16:19, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@CoatGuy2: I'm sorry that you have this agenda, but I will not kowtow to it. I have already explained that historical articles use historical terminology, regardless of modern political correctness. I would also point out that the articles I am editing already use "Indian" throughout, and it is you who is insisting on changing it to something different. You have insisted with equal vehemence on using other words incorrectly, such as "emigrate" and your nonce word "escapee". I have not pursued that silly "escapee" one simply because your contentious behavior toward me is a waste of my time. But I am warning you to desist from your revert warring with me, reverting huge edits simply to change one word. —Dilidor (talk) 12:47, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I would urge you to strike this comment, because it is a blatant misrepresentation of the page's edit history. This article used the terms 'Native American' and 'indigenous' prior diff to my first edits on the page on March 8 and prior to your extensive edits on March 15-16. Since March 2023, you have been making a series of bold edits censoring the terms 'Native American' and 'indigenous' from New England articles because of your personal preference, which is not grounded in Wikipedia guidelines, as well as systematically removing sourced information about the history of slavery in the New England, so I would be careful about accusing others of an agenda. I would also recommend that you consult a dictionary while making copyedits. CoatGuy2 (talk) 17:39, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Also, the most recent edit includes the claim 'the Indians would ambush men working in their fields or burn sleeping families in their homes', which is not included in the Philbrick source for that paragraph. You need to provide a reliable source for this information before including it, per Wikipedia:Verifiability. CoatGuy2 (talk) 19:25, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Dilidor: The term "Native American" is not politically correct. It's just correct. Please stop. --Jayron32 12:44, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 15 February 2024[edit]

i noticd some imfo is wron o i am changing it 2603:6011:3EF0:9260:C815:FE92:58F1:EE77 (talk) 21:28, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 21:51, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]