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Former featured article candidateCoachella Valley is a former featured article candidate. Please view the links under Article milestones below to see why the nomination failed. For older candidates, please check the archive.
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DateProcessResult
October 23, 2004Featured article candidateNot promoted
January 29, 2005Peer reviewReviewed
Current status: Former featured article candidate

older entries[edit]

Moved to Wikipedia:Peer review. Can ya help a brudder bring this to featured status? - Lucky 6.9 04:57, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Would it be WAY to trivial to mention that Bugs Bunny was on his way to a carrot festival in the Coachella Valley when the events in his cartoon Bully for Bugs took place? ;) --JohnDBuell 04:11, 21 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Merge?[edit]

Is there any reason this article should not be merged with Palm Springs area? The two appear to be different terms for the same area. --Nelson Ricardo 09:50, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I decided to be bold, and went ahead and did it. --Nelson Ricardo 10:16, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
When you ask a question, it works better if you allow more than 26 minutes for people to answer. :-) The two are not quite the same; for instance, you'll notice the map for this article clearly excludes Palm Springs and its immediate environs. While it is true that hydrographically Palm Springs is in the "upper Coachella Valley", and you will see that term sometimes, economically, culturally, and demographically the two are worlds apart. If you ask our friends who live in Rancho Mirage how they like the Coachella Valley, their first reaction would be to say "huh?" or "we don't live there!" Stan 12:11, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Stan. That's what being bold is all about. A few references from the municipalities themselves [1] (Palm Springs is in the Coachella Valley), [2] (Rancho Mirage is in the Coachella Valley; please share with your friends). Also, the fourth paragraph of the article, before I came along, listed both Palm Springs and Rancho Mirage as being in the Coachella Valley [3]. I admit that I do not live in the area, but I did visit last autumn. The communities certainly did seem like a cohesive continuum, and all literature points to nine cities as being in the Valley. --Nelson Ricardo 18:33, 24 March 2006 (UTC) (edited twice within minutes of posting to add link & fix typo.)[reply]
Sorry to harp, but here's one more link [4],from the Coachella Valley Economic Partnership. --Nelson Ricardo 20:30, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
As someone who grew up in Palm Springs, I can assure you that any longtime resident would consider Palm Springs, Cathedral City, Rancho Mirage, and Palm Desert to be very much a part of the Coachella Valley. Not an April Fool's joke, either! --PoppaInu 06:49, 1 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
How interesting the article is named the "Coachella Valley". Any local resident considers Palm Springs the main symbol to the outside world of our area. It has national name recognition, unlike affluent communities of Rancho Mirage, Palm Desert and Indian Wells. To tell you the truth, the area's most populous is the oldest city, Indio, and the valley's namesake came from the farm town of Coachella. Historians learned the name was a misspelling back in the 1880's, it should been "Conchilla" or the Spanish term for the tiny "sea shells" found on the desert floor. The Coachella valley for millions of years was first part of the Gulf of California and broke off to become an inland lake that geologists call Lake Cahuilla that dried up thousands of years ago. Palm Springs, like Indio in the 1990's is currently in a business downturn along with Cathedral City. What's ironic is the fastest-growing area is "down valley" communities (i.e. La Quinta) and Desert Hot Springs, north of the I-10 enjoys an improving local economy after years of neglect. + 207.200.116.195 10:42, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In comparison to the "Inland Empire", some people reference Coachella Valley as "Desert Empire".

Hopiakuta 22:49, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The coachella valley contains palm springs, desert hot springs, indian wells, cathedral city, cabazon, and la quinta. It would be kind of dumb to merge them.

The merge was already completed. Note that the merge was with Palm Springs Area. Palm Springs, California is still its own article. --Nelson Ricardo 14:04, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Conchilla" is just one suggestion for the original valley name. The other was that "Coachella" was a mispelling of the word "Cahuilla" (name of the local American Indian tribe) after the railroad survey expedition report by William Blake in 1853 the area was sometimes known as the Cahuilla Basin or the Salton Trough. - signed by an anon ip

Edits[edit]

There were lots of stylistic and grammatical errors in the text. The article should look neither like a tourist guide nor like a hodgepodge of random phrases grouped into a sentence. I feel that much of the lack of fluidity must have been due to multiple edits by multiple editors... I'll check the rest of the article later too and see if I can help. Also, this article needs more reference sources. --SameerKhan 06:56, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The edit I have here was removed (you can find bits and pieces of "American Dad" online, like on youtube) to confirm a Gay reference to Palm Springs. - Season 2, Episode 4 Lincoln Lover.

On American Dad, Stan Smith said to a speech in the Republican National Convention when representatives of the Gay Log Cabin Republicans were present: "Invite half of Palm Springs...oh, invite everyone in Palm Springs..." based on a belief based on a survey by a demographic think tank on about Half of the city's population are Gay or GLBT people.

71.102.21.238 (talk) 09:10, 30 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Poor Quality Article[edit]

This reads like a news report from E! It's full of unnecessary adjective that promote and grandify this valley. Perhaps its realtor spam? These several paragraphs on celebrities that could be greatly reduced and merged into one -- if such things are necessary at all. The inclusion of celebrities into everything simply devalues the integrity, objectivity and quality of the article. It borders on spam in some cases.

Essentially this is a trivia page, a low quality tabloid mess that actually imparts very little information about the valley itself, it says more about the individuals who (allegedly) live there. There's no evidence provided that any of the celebrities do, in fact, reside there at all. - signed by anon IP

The article has improved alot since the complaint, so the issue was resolved. 71.102.21.238 (talk) 10:10, 27 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tourism is #1 part of local economy[edit]

Between 5 to 6 million tourists come to the Coachella Valley annually, making the area among the top 25 places for visitors in the U.S., a higher ratio of visitors versus year-round or permanent residents. 71.102.21.238 (talk) 02:19, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Summer is almost over, so Snow-birds are returning. But we need reliable sources to verify this. Your contributions in this regard are welcome and hoped for.--S. Rich (talk) 02:58, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Population[edit]

As of 2016, between 450-475,000 year-round or full-time residents live in the Coachella Valley (9 cities and 12 unincorporated communities from Cabazon to Desert Shores). In the winter time (Jan. 1st), 300-350,000 "snowbirds" or seasonal residents added, the Coachella Valley will have 750-800,000 residents. April 1st is usually when the decennial census is taken and population estimates are usually Jan 1st. To find out what's the summer population on July 1st, it ranges from 165 to 185,000 with the majority live in Indio (most populous with 85,000 in July 1st, but 90-100,000 on New Years day), Cathedral City (56-65,000), Coachella (35-45,000), Desert Hot Springs (25-30,000) and unincorporated San Gorgonio-Whitewater, North Palm Springs, Sky Valley and Thousand Palms is more year-round than seasonal. Palm Springs is 45-55,000 year-round but can reach 75-80,000; Palm Desert at 45-50,000 can be 70-75,000 in winter, La Quinta is 45,000 in summer but 55,000 in winter; and Rancho Mirage pop: 15,000 doubles to 28-33,000 in winter and Indian wells pop: 4,700 triples to 14,000 since the majority of the town's homes are seasonal rentals. Unincorporated Bermuda Dunes is mostly seasonal as well, while unincorporated Thermal, Mecca, Oasis, North Shore-Desert Beach and Vista Santa Rosa has high numbers of migrant farm laborers arrive in harvest seasons (Mecca can reach 20,000 alone in April and again October). And finally, unincorporated Desert Center-Lake Tamarisk about 50 miles from Indio has a scant 100 residents. 2605:E000:FDCA:4200:D962:2182:F3EB:EEB3 (talk) 20:24, 17 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Very good description of the area population and demographics (ethnic diversity), but more sources are needed to verify their need to be in the article. Half a century ago to I guess around 1980, the area was around 100,000 residents (heavily seasonal, largely senior citizen and mostly white/non-Hispanic), now it's more year-round, more age group balance and supposedly Hispanic/Latino majority. Indio is an exception in its history, because they weren't Palm Springs nor Palm Desert. Yes, Indian Wells and Rancho Mirage are among the county's top, state's 100 and nation's 100 richest communities, but Desert Hot Springs and Coachella are primarily working-class and lower-income among the poorest in their category. Cathedral City and La Quinta weren't cities in the 1970s, now are larger than Palm Springs' in size. 67.49.89.214 (talk) 17:27, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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IPA pronounciation[edit]

The current IPA pronounciation is given as (/koʊˈtʃɛlə, koʊ.ə-/ koh-CHEL-ə, koh-ə-). The given source starts it's quote with "Coachella (ko-CHEL-a, ko-a-CHEL-a): [...]".

Page 83 in the book (available at archive.org) actually reads "Coachella (kō chel´ə, kō e chel´ə): [...]".

I'm not a native speaker and not knowledgeable enough about linguistics to determine whether these are interchangeable, I'd be thankful if someone could shed some light on this.

Cheers, MaligneRange (talk) 08:57, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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