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Ringo para is ambiguous[edit]

"Ringo Starr purchased and donated Palmer's 2½ ton stainless steel drum kit."

donated to whom? and this shouldn't be in the 'influences' section. I tried to search this fact and found it repeated on blogs that the drums were given to Zak Starr, but nothing concrete. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.152.246.43 (talk) 12:19, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In a biography of ELP, I don't remember which book, the purchase by Ringo Starr is mentioned. Hansung02 (talk) 17:00, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Untitled[edit]

I just deleted the "Fying Hat Band" part. Carl never played in that band, it was his brother Steve Lady Fingers.

Date of Birth[edit]

There seems plenty of evidence to support Palmer's date of birth as being 20 March 1947 - not 1950. Such as [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], etc. Anyone care to investigate further ?

Derek R Bullamore 19:59, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've seen Carl Palmer with his band live, and I always assumed that 1950 was correct. I'll go check my Emerson, Lake & Palmer liner notes - I'm almost certain they said that on the first ELP album in 1970 he was 20 years old.-h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 16:16, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, he was 19 during the recording sessions according to the liner notes for ELP's 1970 debut.-h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 16:21, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

On an article without any citable references, I still maintain - eighteen months on - that the evidence quoted above gives 1947 more support than 1950. Album liner notes are not reliable; usually (in my lengthy experience), merely maintaining the original incorrect publicity based age of the artist. Come on, if I am wrong, prove it - you are presently failing to support any text at all.

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 00:05, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is a video on Youtube of ELP performing "Pictures at an Exhibition" in 1971 in the studio (I think it is a BBC broadcast) where Emerson is wearing his then famous blue glitter suit with open torso, Lake (born 1948) is 23 and looks 23, and Palmer is clearly the youngest of the three, looking 19 or 20, or 21; not (supposedly born 1947) 23 or 24. Hansung02 (talk) 16:41, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have the book "Applied Rhythms", which gives March 20, 1950. Also states at 15 joined Chris Farlowe and the Thunderbirds in 1965. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.80.168.101 (talk) 14:48, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please give more details on the book: writer, ISBN, etc. Hansung02 (talk) 16:43, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Image[edit]

text says "Carl Palmer live with Asia (2006)"

yet image backdrop shows Carl Palmer band logo not an Asia backdrop—Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.145.191.29 (talk • contribs) 15 March 2008

Good catch. It looks like someone changed the image but left the old caption. I've removed it. --Bongwarrior (talk) 09:55, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't like the change of image in the infobox. Carl Palmer is known for his fantastic ability and huge set up on the drums. I know that normally we place the most recent photo in the infobox, however it isn't a RULE. The new one is nice, but to have an outstanding drummer with a dinky little tambourine in his hand to me, looks pitiful. I placed the old photo (black and white from the ELP days) in here. But I feel that the one at the drums is most representative of him, it's less than two years apart, shows his face AND his drum kit, and the other photo could just as easily be placed in the spot where the first photo has been moved. I really feel strongly about this, here. There was truly no need to move a fine and colorful picture like that. --leahtwosaints (talk) 08:12, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is too much, really.[edit]

My complaint above about the previous photo that was in the infobox (just above)-- not needing to be moved is now doubled. BOTH photos were taken in the same year. Someone placed "2008" in the caption in the infobox, when both the photo just moved with his drum kit to the discography section in favor of just him both were taken in 2006. Give Palmer back his drums! It's as if he was emasculated or something.--leahtwosaints (talk) 08:12, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Stick with the current close-up. Infobox images should always show the clearest picture of the subjects face. Wikipedia isn't a fanpage. It's an information page. The picture of him playing drums is still in the article. Just in a more appropriate location. The Real Libs-speak politely 12:09, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Early bands[edit]

Article needs info on Palmer's early bands, The King Bees, which evolved into (The) Craig, and Chris Farlowe's Thunderbirds. The Summer 2012 Ugly Things magazine has a good article on the first bands. googuse (talk) 08:06, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Equipment[edit]

Can we skip the endorsements of all his "equipment" brands and models? This doesn't belong here and really is irrelevant anyway. --71.10.155.250 (talk) 01:50, 14 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Many people researching instrumentalists are quite interested in what instruments they use. I don't see a problem with documenting that, as such. I do have an issue with how badly most of this is sourced, though. TJRC (talk) 21:05, 14 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I agree on listing the equipment: in most articles in professional (rock) music periodicals on individual musicians, they mention the complete equipment with amplifiers, mikes, etc. because fellow musicians are interested in how a particular musician achieves his individual sound. Equipment can also change during the years (see for instance Emerson or Jon Lord or Tony Banks) resulting in a different sound. Hansung02 (talk) 16:57, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Simple Question, often asked but not answered anywhere: Is Robert Palmer related to Carl Palmer?[edit]

I looked around and couldn't find a simple answer. Type it in Google and it takes you to Carl Palmers Wiki page but I still didn't find the answer. Does anybody know? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.160.13.173 (talk) 00:06, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know much about Robert Palmer but it seems highly unlikely. The two were born in quite different towns, although only a few years apart, and the fact that both have Palmer as their surname doesn't mean anything: Palmer is a very common surname in the English language, so they very well can stem from quite different families. Someone would have to do a genealogy search to find out conclusively, but I don't know where the sources for such a query can be found. Maybe somebody in Britain? Hansung02 (talk) 16:50, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]