Talk:Battle for Mexico City

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The article about the battle for Chapultepec states that Mexico City was defended by "the impreganble fortress of Chapultepec". In fact Chapultepec Castle is hardly a fortress and at the time of the war it served as the Military College so most of the defenders inside were young cadets. The structure of the castle itself was not designed for battle but as a residence. I will look further into this.

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Requested move 4 May 2019[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: No consensus to move, and no evidence in support of proposed title was presented — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:25, 11 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Battle for Mexico City → Battle of Mexico City – There is no page with the title "Battle of Mexico City" and this would be more appropriate. Roastedturkey (talk) 23:37, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Starting a discussion regarding this request as this might be seen as contentious. Jalen D. Folf (talk) 01:19, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Cautious support pending sources Red Slash 20:20, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Willing to change if supporting sources are identified. --В²C ☎ 22:55, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A source in support [1] (this might be)

Comment Per Wikipedia:Article titles and "Consistency". Many battles] of the Mexican–American War use "of". But this could be an exception to the rule because it seems this battle is special in that it was a battle to win over Mexico City and not a battle in Mexico City.[2] and this is an combination of other battles (see article) not a single "battle". For example Battle of Molino del Rey seems to be a specific part of the battle "for" Mexico City. OkayKenji (talk) 21:15, 11 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Capitalisation of "battle" in "battle for Mexico City"[edit]

The initial letter of the title is only capitalised in running text if it would normally be capitalised. Per MOS:CAPS: Wikipedia avoids unnecessary capitalization. In English, capitalization is primarily needed for proper names, acronyms, and for the first letter of a sentence. Wikipedia relies on sources to determine what is conventionally capitalized; only words and phrases that are consistently capitalized in a substantial majority of independent, reliable sources are capitalized in Wikipedia. Per MOS:CAPS, the burden is to show that capitalisation is necessary in accordance with the criteria of MOS:CAPS. Looking sources here and here, it appears to fall well short of the high threshold set by MOS:CAPS. Cinderella157 (talk) 01:43, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a "high threshhold". It's just iteration of WP:COMMON and avoidance of WP:FRINGE.

If there was a battle around Mexico City, that's how it should be treated. If there was a Battle of Mexico City (as the article's existence seems to heavily imply) it should be capitalized properly and consistently. If your sources show that this battle has a different name, that's fine but that's something to discuss in a move request, not a complaint about (mis)capitalization. — LlywelynII 06:52, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mexico City Campaign[edit]

currently links here but actually refers (per the infobox) to a larger section of the war including the mess around Veracruz. It should be shunted to sth else or the infobox should be corrected. — LlywelynII 06:52, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]