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Warrington[edit]

Warrington is a unitary authority and therefore strictly speaking is no longer in Cheshire. Should it not be deleted from this list of places in Cheshire? Or perhaps there should be a second section with the heading 'Places that used to be in Cheshire'? --Etimbo 17:13, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Warrington may be a unitary authority but it is still considered to be in Cheshire. It just isint under the auspices of Cheshire County Council Ydam 17:18, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Query[edit]

In the article, Warburton, Cheshire is listed. Is this the same as Warburton, Greater Manchester which borders Cheshire and was historically in Cheshire or is there another one? Nev1 19:00, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for raising the question. As Warburton, it seems to have been added right at the beginning of the lists genesis, but I'm not sure on what basis it was included except that it used to be in Cheshire and was transferred to Greater Manchester in 1974 (I used F. A. Youngs 1991 book: "Guide to the Local Administrative Units of England. Volume II: Northern England." to verify this. I suggest we just delete the entry. Occasionally, errors like this are discovered, but we thought we had weeded them all out. So, thanks for discovering it! DDStretch (talk) 20:36, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:16, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Images[edit]

Are images relevant in "List of places..." articles? Those placed on this page are of structures rather than of places. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:11, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ceremonial County of Cheshire[edit]

I, am just passing by, but this list seems to be seriously inaccurate.

Where is Tintwistle- as the most northerly parish in ceremonial Cheshire it must be included.
If the article is on Ceremonial Cheshire- what does the map show? Where is Stalybridge? Where is Stockport? I am fascinated to learn whether you intend to include Heaton Moor?

ClemRutter (talk) 22:01, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tintwistle isn't in Cheshire now, and hasn't been since the 1970s. "Ceremonial Cheshire" refers to Cheshire as it was just after the 1970s boundary changes. That is what the map shows. The term "Ceremonial X" is commonly used for counties in the state they were in after the 1970s boundary changes. (see ceremonial county#definitions.) DDStretch (talk) 22:05, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As an afterthought, I think you are also getting a bit mixed up, as the link you gave to "northerly parish" gives the location of Black Hill, as now being in Derbyshire in the first few paragraphs, explaining how it used to be in Cheshire: "It used to be the highest point in Cheshire, but now lies on the border between the boroughs of Kirklees in West Yorkshire and High Peak in Derbyshire, reaching 582 metres above sea level." What you mean, surely is now Tintwistle in the High Peak district of Derbyshire. The opening paragraph of this states: "Tintwistle is a village and civil parish in the High Peak district of the non-metropolitan county of Derbyshire, England. According to the 2001 census the parish had a population of 1,401. The village is just north of Glossop at the lower end of the Longdendale valley. It lies within the historic county boundaries of Cheshire.", which is quite accurate. It refers to the "historic county boundaries of Cheshire" which is not the same as the "ceremonial county boundaries of Cheshire", which are as described in my previous message. DDStretch (talk) 22:26, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I concede on the definition you are using, I am still working to the Lieutenancy areas in 1890, having to reconcile that Bromley and Bexley still believe they are in Kent.

It is still rather silly to to exclude Cheshire's greatest population centre, and its County Top. I think you are better to work to the Ancient County definition and tag any area that has been administratively removed with a (since 1974 in Derbyshire) or similar. Why. It is just more informative. My, Ozzie relatives who see a County of Cheshire Birth Certificate, are going to be more informed if they use the list and find the village saying it has been moved- than looking and finding nothing. As I said just passing through- ClemRutter (talk) 23:17, 15 July 2008 (UTC) and on commons[reply]

I think WP:PLACE#Counties of Britain expresses a convention that almost always needs to be complied with (see the header of WP:PLACE.) If there are arguments against it, I think the talk page for [[WP:PLACE}} might be the best one to use. There may be a solution to the situation you describe that will be arriving when a few more articles about Cheshire have been written and others expanded: already, some birth certificates may need to refer to Ancient parishes of Cheshire for help in knowing where the person named in the certificate was born, and I suggest that the remit of this article should continue to comply with WP:PLACE, but that some additional information pointing to articles that describe places that once were in Cheshire would help. DDStretch (talk) 23:25, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]