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Vlachs[edit]

I might have found a contradiction. We have the text he arbitrarily counted among the Hungarians' opponents(...) the Vlachs which, according to these authors, suggest that his choices reflect the ethnic and political realities of the 12th century on one hand, and on the opther hand László Makkai, a supporter of the Origin of the Romanians#Immigrationist theory, affirms that "there is no historical, archaeological, or toponymic evidence to indicate that Romanians lived in Transylvania before the early 13th century". If Vlachs came in Hungary in the 1200s, how could they have been a part of "the ethnic and political realities" from 12th century? Partiee (talk) 08:24, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Anonymus created enemies for the Hungarians based on the late 12th-century or early 11th-century political situation. Among the neighbors of Hungary, the Holy Roman Empire, the Byzantine Empire, the Vlach-Bulgarian Second Bulgarian Empire, the Cumans and the Bohemian Kingdom were the most powerful polities. Consequently, Anonymus wrote of Romans in Transdanubia, of Greeks fighting against the Hungarians near Belgrade, of the Vlach-Bulgarian-Cuman warriors of Glad, of the Vlach Gelou, and of the Czech Zobor. Borsoka (talk) 17:00, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dennis Deletant[edit]

@OrionNimrod, you completely misquoted Deletant in your edit

What Deletant said on page 85, as per linked source: To conclude, then, the cases for and against the existence of Gelou and the Vlachs simply cannot be proven

What you wrote: "Dennis Deletant joins the opinion that it is a debatable chronicle, and the existence of Gelou and the Vlachs simply cannot be proven."

You dropped the words "for and against", thus completely changing the meaning. Be more careful next time. Azure94 (talk) 07:59, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]