Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John L. Bell and Graham Maule
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The result of the debate was delete Graham Maule and keep John L. Bell. ugen64 23:47, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
John L. Bell and Graham Maule[edit]
These two articles are about people who have no notability outside of the Iona Community, which itself seems to be of borderline notablity. I was tempted to just merge the information in the article on the community, however I don't think that what is already there needs to be expanded. I am making this one vote rather than two, because I can't see anyone voting to keep or delete one and not the other. Thryduulf 16:41, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Delete both. Under the bar of notability, reads like vanity. Megan1967 06:40, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Delete both, sure. Sounds like stupidity. --Dbsanfte 17:31, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Keep although the article on John L. Bell should be merged with John Lamberton Bell, which is, I assure people, the same person. I suggest his full name should be treated as primary. Wikipedians in the USA should be cautious about what counts as notability in a British context. PatGallacher 00:07, 2005 Apr 1 (UTC)
- For the record I'm British and neither are at all notable as far as I'm concerned. The John Lamberton Bell sounds like it might be the same person, but as there are no links to the same articles I'm not sure. That article needs a rewrite to sound less like vanity as well. Thryduulf 08:34, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- I assure you they are the same person, I have met him a handful of times. The Lord Rector of Glasgow University article has a list of people who held the post, with links to a lot of them, I suggest all rectors, or at least all those within living memory, are inherently notable. Should I go ahead and copy the contents of John L. Bell to John Lamberton Bell? Or would that disrupt the VFD process? PatGallacher 10:55, 2005 Apr 1 (UTC)
- You can certainly merge the info from John L. Bell to John Lamberton Bell without disrupting the VfD process. I wouldn't object to changing the former article to a redirect either, but until others have commented I think you should only add a link to it and alter the Iona Community link as well. Can you clarify what your opinion on the Graham Maule article is. Thryduulf 11:41, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- I assure you they are the same person, I have met him a handful of times. The Lord Rector of Glasgow University article has a list of people who held the post, with links to a lot of them, I suggest all rectors, or at least all those within living memory, are inherently notable. Should I go ahead and copy the contents of John L. Bell to John Lamberton Bell? Or would that disrupt the VFD process? PatGallacher 10:55, 2005 Apr 1 (UTC)
- For the record I'm British and neither are at all notable as far as I'm concerned. The John Lamberton Bell sounds like it might be the same person, but as there are no links to the same articles I'm not sure. That article needs a rewrite to sound less like vanity as well. Thryduulf 08:34, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- I've had second thoughts, he's sometimes known as John L. Bell, seldom by his full name, although we do need to disambiguate him from other John Bells on Wikipedia. I have therefore merged the contents of John Lamberton Bell with John L. Bell, turned the former into a redirect, and changed the link on Lord Rector of Glasgow University and John Bell disambiguation (although I realise this last change wasn't strictly necessary). I now vote to keep John L. Bell (although maybe it could still do with some tidying up) and delete Graham Maule (unless somebody comes up with something more notable about him, he seems to be less important of the 2 even in relation to the Iona Community). PatGallacher 12:34, 2005 Apr 1 (UTC)
- Keep John L. Bell as he was once rector of Glasgow University, for which there is an article: Lord Rector of Glasgow University. This alone makes him fairly noteworthy in my opinion, as does much of his work with the Church of Scotland. Not so sure about other article though. Big Jim Fae Scotland 11:09, 11 Apr 2005
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