Talk:Mental-skill game

Quote?

There's a quote on the page:

The contestant in mental games must train for battle with just as much care as the athlete. - Plato

Anyone know where this quote was recorded? (sounds suspect to me) RJFJR 18:17, Jan 6, 2005 (UTC)

Wording/POV?

I've started rewriting

The International Olympic Committee has no such qualms with its recognition of FIDE, the governing body of chess.

out of embarrassment of anyone taking lack of qualms on the part of the notoriously corrupt IOC as evidence of anything! (Not to mention the derisive laughter that will follow if, for whatever pecuniary reason they may have, they make chess an olympic sport.)

But i got this far

The International Olympic Committee has lent some credibility to the concept by recognizing FIDE, the governing body of chess, as ....

and realizing that both the original statement and my cleanup of its PoV are irrelevant without that missing last word. --Jerzy(t) 22:45, 2005 Jan 14 (UTC)

Split?

The main part of this article seems to be a list of 'mindsports'. Should these be split off into a separate article List of mindsports? Frankly there isn't much to this article yet. [Unsigned contrib from 2004 Jan 16, noted by --Jerzy(t) 22:28, 2005 Jan 17 (UTC).]

• This untimely suggestion was made in the midst of the VfD debate on the article, and sounds distressingly like an attempt to rescue its PoV, in case it gets deleted, by forking it into a not yet challenged article. It appears the VfD will fail, but at this point (after the nominator's change of heart), the tally is
  • 2 solid Dels for nn
  • 2 unqualified Keeps
  • 2 weak Keeps
  • 1 solid Keep as Dab or Redir

This use of "sport" is PoV and obscure; these clearly are games even within the terms of reference of people who want to also call them sports, and any point about them being like sports or about some people calling them sports can be made within nPoV-titled articles that take advantage of the fact that every reasonable person agrees they are (at least) games.

Yes, the list can be useful in another way, but not with such a title.

--Jerzy(t) 22:28, 2005 Jan 17 (UTC)

VfD

This talk page's article was the subject of a VfD debate during 2005 January; that debate is maintained for reference at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Mind sport. --Jerzy(t) 05:10, 2005 Jan 20 (UTC)

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