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Add Wikifunctions or not?[edit]

At the moment I won't use {{Editprotected}} as I'm not sure if I'm indeed making an official request or not, but as a new launched WMF project, I wonder why such a "friend link" can't be here. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 08:34, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Izno, Xaosflux and Stephen any inputs? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:03, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see an issue. Izno (talk) 02:04, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it's really ready for main page advertisement yet - also style wise we have a 4x3 grid now, putting 13 in there may be, eh... Maybe do some mock ups? — xaosflux ^Talk 09:18, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Recall that the grid resizes for resolution. It is 1 column for the majority of visitors. Izno (talk) 17:07, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like at narrow it converts to just a list, but with 12 we get 1x12 (maybe on a small phone?); 2x6, 3x4, 4x3 -- 12 is just such a nicely divisible number. 13 might look ok, that's why I asked for a mockup. — xaosflux ^Talk 19:58, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We need to add Abstract Wikipedia before too long, so it's no like we're going to have the luxury of this nice number. Just bite the bullet. Izno (talk) 07:25, 23 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Another possible way is to not only add Wikifunctions, but also Wikimedia Incubator, Wikimedia Outreach and Wikitech so that would be 4x4. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:02, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Edward-Woodrow • talk 00:25, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Add Wikifunctions. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 12:00, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Koavf I'd personally suggest to discuss this issue broaderly via a WP:VP board, probably WP:VPT? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 01:22, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:32, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

+1. Looks like there's enough consensus here already. — Frostly (talk) 22:56, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There are only 67 people watching this obscure talk page, that's not going to generate an acceptable consensus to change the main page. It needs broader discussion, and to be honest, there's a few projects already on there that are of very limited interest to readers, including this proposed one. Step hen 23:17, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's irrelevant how interested encyclopedia editors and readers may be in a travel guide or whatever: they are our sister projects. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:50, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Back on the main topic, Wikifunctions is a new project by the Wikimedia Foundation that is currently under development is how they are currently self-labeled on that project - and it isn't a "content" project (targeted to readers). — xaosflux ^Talk 23:04, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, but so are mw: or m:. The sister projects are not all "content" projects as such and things like Wikidata or Wikifunctions straddle that line. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:17, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Moved from Talk:Main Page

Hi all! Is it possible to add Wikifunctions to the list of sister projects? Sannita (WMF) (talk) 14:01, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sannita (WMF) think we've talked about this one a couple of times - one hold up being that funct appears to be in pre-release still? (based on its own sitenotice). How is the roadmap on it going? — xaosflux ^Talk 14:04, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Xaosflux We're out of the pre-release, and almost all of the normal functions for users are up. We're still developing new features of course, and some stuff is still limited to a certain class of users, but we're up. Sannita (WMF) (talk) 14:09, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sannita (WMF): thanks for response, I've merged this to the existing discussion and activated an edit request for attention. — xaosflux ^Talk 14:23, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a mockup in Template:Wikipedia's sister projects/sandbox already - anyone else got feedback? — xaosflux ^Talk 14:24, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can anyting useful be done with it? Not "I can reverse a string" or "I can add "er" to turn "good" into the English comparative "gooder" (sic, see [1]) or one that claims that "ja!çaj" is a palindrome[2] but anything with real practical value? At the moment it looks like a playground for some programmers, not as anything we would want to send our readers to as it will have no value for them in the foreseeable future. Fram (talk) 14:25, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Fram: That's a good point. I believe (I stand happy to be corrected) that Wikifunctions currently only works with strings, but there are some strings I would consider useful, if to a somewhat specialized group. For example, when I'm citing a source that annoyingly stylized a long title in all caps (as many journal article do), I copy it into the "To Titlecase" function. Cremastra (talk) 19:48, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Cremastra We currently support booleans, strings, lists, and numbers as types of functions, just FYI. So, to make an example, it's also possible to make basic maths, like adding, subtracting, multiplying and dividing. Sannita (WMF) (talk) 21:14, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab) § Special period advertising sister projects[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab) § Special period advertising sister projects. 🌺 Cremastra (talk) 21:18, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why do we list "free" seven times?[edit]

It'd be more streamlined to write Wikipedia is written by volunteer editors and hosted by the Wikimedia Foundation, a non-profit organization that also hosts a range of other free volunteer projects: and remove subsequent occurrnces of "free". Of the projects that don't have "free" in their descriptions (presumably to save space on mobile), all call themselves free on their English main pages except meta-wiki, which reads The Foundation will make and keep useful information from its projects available on the Internet free of charge, in perpetuity on mw:mission. This implies meta-wiki is free, something confirmed by any dictionary. We could make the description for WikiNews "news source" if a one word description feels too short. Sincerely, Novo Tape^{My Talk Page} 15:16, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]