Talk:Poker chip

Opening comment[edit]

I take exception to the statement that the weighted ABS plastic poker chips "approach casino chips in in look, feel, sound, and texture." Other wise I think this is a great summary of the current poker chip market. - TenPercenter

I disagree. My cheap piece-of-drek chips (used mainly in Risk:2210 in lieu of energy counters) resemble the Paulson cane-and-hat designs, such as those I possess from Harrah's New Orleans and Trump Casino Indiana. My "premium" set, a WPT/Bellagio set, is close in feel to the chips I got from Ho-Chunk Casino, Wisconsin Dells (dunno maker) and the Bourgogne et Grasset chips used at Aviation Club de France. The flat, edge-to-edge printed chips from companies like Chipco (you can see examples of this style at the Palms, Las Vegas and Potawatomi Casino, Milwaukeee, amongst other places) have a distinct feel to them which no cheap chip can easily replicate. d.valued

External Links[edit]

What's wrong with a link to the largest poker chip discussion board? (ChipTalk.net) That'd be the best link I can think of for an entry called "poker chips."

You placed links to this site in 6 articles. This is spamming. What does a poker chip discussion board have to do with stud poker? Exactly... I reverted all contributions because Wikipedia does not tolerate spammers, advertising, or self promotion. Oh, and yes, I can tell this is self promotion. Your IP traces to Plano, TX. I look at ChipTalk.net and see that there's an administrator on right now. He's from... Plano, TX! Strike three. CryptoDerk 04:44, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

There's been some back and forth on the External links section. The issue appears to be whether the links to the chip makers ought to be included. Since these links are for makers, not resellers, I think it puts it into a grey area. There's definitely some interesting reading in the links, but they are without question commercial. I'd find it useful if the editors who insert/remove the links make their case in the Talk page.--Toms2866 21:05, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The issue has nothing to do with commerciality of the links, and of course shouldn't. The person deleting the links was just vandalizing the page because the link to his company was removed. He readded the link now. In my opinion his link is okay and could stay, despite him vandalizing the page several times. 2005 21:10, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Colors[edit]

I think that listing 1 dollar chips as usually white in casinos is false, I think that it's a 50/50 split in that casinos also used blue quite often (Treasure Island in Las Vegas for sure) as a one dollar chip. Anyone have any further info on casino chips? Mike

Blue as a color is something I have never seen outside LV. I've visited all the tables in Metro Detroit - all white. Tables in Wisconsin - all white. Tables in metro Chicago - all white. Tables in Minnesota, in New Orleans, in AC - all white (as well as synced up in all the other colors mentioned as well.) In addition, all the online gaming sites I've seen interfaces for use the white-1/red-5/green-25/etc. schema.d.valued

Oops, I didn't see this thread before making that edit. In short Mike is right: Blue chips are used in a clear preponderance of rooms Vegas and in California, occasionally in Arizona. I've not seen any outside those places, but that accounts for a huge number of cardrooms. Therefore I'll stand on my edit to make $1 "white or blue". PhilipR 16:07, 26 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to edit the following list to add to it. -- PhilipR 16:07, 26 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

California Rooms with $1 blue (virtually all; white usually means $100 in CA):

Bicycle
Commerce
Hustler
Oceans Eleven
Normandie
Crystal Park
Trump 29
many many many more I don't have in my collection hence can't recall first hand

California Rooms with other colors for $1

Lucky Chances (gray)

Vegas rooms with $1 blue:

Golden Nugget
Mandalay
Bellagio
Mirage

Nevada rooms with $1 white:

(Horseshoe) presumably now Binion's, but I haven't been there since the name change
Circus Circus Reno (Don't know about their LV site)

Vegas rooms with other colors for $1

Sahara (gray)
Imperial Palace (gray)
Orleans (brown)

Other rooms with $1 blue

Casino of the Sun, Tucson, AZ
Boomtown Reno, Reno NV —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tthaas (talk • contribs) 13:30, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Other rooms with $1 white

Virtually every cardroom outside NV and CA

Spamming[edit]

You're right, I added my URL to several entries at once, but they were all poker related. To be honest, I didn't think they were actually being changed on the internet, just in my browser cache. I was amazed when members at the chiptalk.net forum were telling me that they could see the changes.

It's my fault for not knowing how wikipedia works (I learned a great deal as soon as I discovered it that night). It's amazing and I apologize for what was considered spamming.

I stand by the edit for "poker chips" external link though. ChipTalk.net is the "home" for poker chip fanatics, it should be listed. I'll let you decide that (whoever "you" are, I don't even know who I'm talking to here. :) )

I would be in favor of adding the link here, but only here. Poker people on Wikipedia seem to be tough on external links; I got a link to 2+2, the second-most-important discussion site on the web, reverted from Poker. Do check out our side wiki project at http://poker.wikicities.com -- you may be able to help us update our excruciating detail on poker chip colors. - PhilipR 05:09, 26 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Chip colors[edit]

I made a few bold edits in the colors section, and some others that I expect to be uncontroversial. I'm going from memory, but here goes....:

Blue is by my observation substantially more common than white for $1 in LV and CA. Granted, everywhere else almost always has white, but LV and CA are the preponderance of the casinos in the country! So I consider either standard for $1.

Yellows are standardized by law at $20 in AC. I've read that at least twice -- any challenges to substantiate will be answered, in other words, I'll look harder for written evidence.

I've observed yellows for $2 first hand at C del S and also seen photos on the web. I believe there was something about yellows being rare, but in fact they're not rare -- just not very unstandardized!

Yellows are also $5 in most of CA; I should probably add that.

Blue $10s are relatively rare, but not exceptionally rare. They apparently play all the time in the Borgata $40/80, and the cage had no problem selling me a stack (even though I was buying them for novelty value; I don't play that high!). This is another AC color fixed by law. "Exceptionally rare" means to me either, you can't find them playing regularly anywhere, or if you can it's somewhere out of the way. The Borg is one of the prominent casinos on the East Coast, and $10 blues are elsewhere in AC, hence not exceptionally rare.

Grey -> gray: United States locations, US spellings.

$1000: Orange is standard in AC (again, I believe, by law) and used at Foxwoods. See http://www.callzia.com/dghome/acchips/home.htm for extensive AC examples including $1000 pics. I believe orange is at least as established as yellow.

Please let me know if you believe any of this to be in error; I want to be bold but not reckless. Cheers, PhilipR 05:20, 26 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Materials[edit]

I don't think the article is accurate or complete as it ought to be with regard to the materials used in poker chips. For example, Chipco markets their 100% ceramic chips as the premier line (and also market less expensive ceramic composite). Kardwell markets 100% clay, clay composite and plastic chips. Gaming Partners (Paulson/Bud Jones) makes "clay" (Paulson) and plastic chips (Bud Jones). Security features such as edge designs, UV pigments, laser lock, alpha dot, and embedded microchips should also be described in more detail.--Toms2866 19:39, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have never participated in wikipedia before however when I found this section last night I felt compelled to make some adjustments. I've also tried to adjust the external links but apparently someone regards them as spam...? None the less I think I have been able to improve the article quite a bit. I would like to make a few more contributions but I will wait for now and consider the info more carefully. --Elij 16:00, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Improving it is certainly welcome, but you should read WP:EL about external links. 2005 01:48, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Poker Chip Tricks[edit]

How about a section on tricks with poker chips? They're quite fun and you catch glimpses of them in televised holdem games. Sites like http://www.pokerchiptricks.com have good examples / tutorials.

Re-merger[edit]

The merger from Poker chip to Casino token was done on 20 April 2007‎, but was undid on 16 March 2011,‎ by User:Earth Wikipedian, who as of now has been blocked indefinitely. Since the two articles are highly duplicated, I'm re-merging the content. --Tomchen1989 (talk) 17:21, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]