Talk:Witold Pilecki

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Former featured articleWitold Pilecki is a former featured article. Please see the links under Article milestones below for its original nomination page (for older articles, check the nomination archive) and why it was removed.
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Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on March 4, 2022.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Polish Home Army resistance fighter Witold Pilecki volunteered to infiltrate the Auschwitz concentration camp?
On this day... Facts from this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on September 19, 2011, September 19, 2015, September 19, 2018, September 19, 2020, and September 19, 2023.
Current status: Former featured article, current good article

Suggested edits[edit]

Could this section be used to allow users not holding extended access levels to suggest changes?

I'd like to point out an editing lapse:

The section 'Outside Auschwitz' contains the following passage halfway through the first paragraph. the camp's resistance was judged to lack lacked sufficient strength

--Singerbergler (talk) 07:12, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest to edit "In 1942, Pilecki's resistance movement was also using a home-made radio transmitter to broadcast details [...] using a radio transmitter that was built by camp inmates." into "In 1942, Pilecki's resistance movement was also using a radio transmitter built by camp inmates to broadcast details [...]" Otrebus (talk) 12:28, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also: 'After the War': "hearrived" (missing space).

-- Jmranger (talk) 01:50, 3 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Issues fixed, thank you. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:50, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

For the "Legacy" section, the Swedish band Sabaton recorded a song about him, "Inmate 4859" on the album, "Heroes". (Their subjects are often lesser-known people and events from (war) history.) That's honestly probably the largest pop-culture reference made to the guy so far. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cevmarauder (talkcontribs) 19:27, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed Char322 (talk) 04:58, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Char322 @Cevmarauder Added with a reference. The biggest issue is finding a reliable reference for such trivia. If you want to speed up addition of such content, please provide references. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:38, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination[edit]

{{Did you know nominations/Witold Pilecki}}

The lede and the article tell rather different stories[edit]

The body of the article shows that there was a massive ideological and tactical conflict between Pilecki and the leadership of the group he had co-founded (which was drifting so much to the far right that even the prospect of their becoming Nazi collaborators no longer seemed out of the question), that said leadership chose him, on its own initiative, for the Auschwitz mission and that while they didn't officially order him to go there, he himself saw their 'offer' as a punishment for his opposition to them (which implies that, for whatever reason, he considered it difficult to refuse the offer). All of this is a very different situation from what anybody who hears the word 'volunteer' without further explanations and qualifications would imagine. Nonetheless, the lede just says that he 'volunteered', as if that were a sufficient summary of what happened, and omits all mention of his conflict with the TAP leadership. I can only describe that as a misleading lede. All the 'inconvenient' parts that do not fit a neat and simple black-and-white patriotic hagiography are swept under the rug. Anonymous44 (talk) 15:41, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Blame the sources. Wikipedia job is not to correct great wrongs but to summarize what sources say. Most of the sources about Pilecki call him a volunteer and don't question that. Only recently one or two scholars have raised questions about whether this is the most correct term. They may be right - but they don't get to rewrite history, not until more sources appear to support rewording. See WP:DUE. Also, WP:WRONGS. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:43, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

New feature film about Pilecki, The Pilecki Report, 2023[edit]

A new feature film about Pilecki's life, "Raport Pileckiego"/"The Pilecki Report," was released in 2023. Directed and written by Krzysztof Lukaszewicz, with Przemyslaw Wyszynski in the role of Pilecki, the film focuses on Pilecki's actions against the Nazi occupation of Poland and elucidates his arrest in 1940, his imprisonment at Auschwitz and his escape in 1943, his participation in the Warsaw uprising and subsequent arrest, his eventual arrest and torture by Polish communist authorities in Mokotow Prison, in Warsaw, and his execution at Mokotow Prison. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matildathehun (talkcontribs) 15:32, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Austin Polish Film Festial, 2023

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 January 2024[edit]

Additional picture:

The Initial page of Pilecki daughter's - Zofia Pilecka-Obtułowicz book Mój ojciec, Warszawa, 2017

Jedrzej1224 (talk) 14:02, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: Please specify where to place this picture. Good day—RetroCosmos talk 11:17, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]