Talk:List of Catch-22 characters

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Untitled[edit]

Yossarian's a MINOR character?! I'm moving it. --cuiusquemodi 02:35, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)

What are the reasons for wanting to merge all characters to one page? I oppose it, each character is a subject worthy of an article of its own. --62.251.90.73 17:53, 10 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

too many articles[edit]

Merge them all. There are dozens of articles about characters from this book (see links from Catch-22). The effort is admirable but it's really way too many articles. There might not even be that many articles about LOTR characters. Phr 02:32, 22 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That LOTR is not as well documented yet or there aren't enough LOTR characters that warrant an article is no reason to remove Catch-22 articles. These articles are all pretty extensive, the information is accurate and specific on the subject. They really describe the nature of the character and do not tell the same story again. So there is no reason at all to remove them.--62.251.90.73 02:38, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge all. Place the content in one article; most are only brief and can be abbreviated by removing context which would be unnecessary if all were together e.g. "[X] is a character from Joseph Heller's novel Catch-22". SM247 02:33, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge all. I was surprised to see a full article on every character -- would it be preferable/more convenient to have them on one page, anyway? Is anyone going to search for them separately?

I say merge most. Yossarian should get his own article, and maybe a few of the other important ones, like the chaplain, Milo, and Cathcart; but there's really no reason why the maid with the lime-colored panties deserves her own article. Wehpudicabok 03:22, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please, tell me why you did that. Catch-22 is one of the most important novels of 20th century. The "cast" within is ENSEMBLE, that is why so many characters need their own articles. Where is all this useful and colourful information now, since you deletionists have "merged" everything? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.168.108.161 (talk) 22:51, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cleaning up Catch-22[edit]

I'm beginning an effort to merge the majority of Catch-22 character articles to this list. Comments and help are welcome. -- Comandante {Talk} 18:45, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've completed a majority of the work, and should be able to finish later today. -- Comandante {Talk} 21:40, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For all intents and purposes I've finished the merging of the character articles. Each character mentioned on the list should have a brief desription or a link to another article describing multiple characters. Hopefully this will keep Catch-22 and everything related to it in some semblance of organization. In any case, I'm done here, and will finish up with some adjustments to the main Catch-22 article. -- Comandante {Talk} 02:49, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Aarfy[edit]

From the article:

"Old Aarfy has never paid for it" he often says in reference to prostitutes. He often and openly commits rape, because he says he can tell which girl is "nice and clean" and which isn't.

Are either of these instances of the word 'often' justified? From my memory each of those things happened only once. Olaf Davis | Talk 09:48, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He talks about he and his fraternity brothers used to date rape the townie girls when he was in college, and laughs about it. Bkatcher (talk) 03:12, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Request for comment on articles for individual television episodes and characters[edit]

A request for comments has been started that could affect the inclusion or exclusion of episode and character, as well as other fiction articles. Please visit the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(fiction)#Final_adoption_as_a_guideline. Ikip (talk) 11:08, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Clevinger[edit]

It seems to me that Clevinger is a significant character in the novel, and ought to be listed as such. Lieutenant Scheisskopf, on the other hand, is amusing but sort of minor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Steambadger (talk • contribs) 23:24, 12 June 2009 (UTC) I agree. I also find the part about Clevinger to be a tad grammatically incoherent. 198.200.115.29 (talk) 01:06, 2 December 2019 (UTC) I can't remember if Yossarian describes Clevinger as having "lots of intelligence and zero smarts" or as having "lots of intelligence and zero brains". It might be useful if someone were to tell me the answer. 198.200.115.29 (talk) 01:17, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Korn[edit]

Obviously enough, Lt. Col. Korn is cynical AND sarcastic - not cynical and humorless. quote from the book: "Colonel Korn inquired with sarcastic seriousness, mocking Colonel Cathcart. 'No, sir,'", another one: "Were you describing some mystical experience you've had?" - that's a humorless person? Sarcasm is a kind of irony, irony is a kind of humor. The difference is best shown on two background characters of the novel: while Scheisskopf's humorless, Korn's sacrastic. further reading: "Lt. Colonel Korn, the bemused and sarcastic power behind the throne" from http://www.funtrivia.com/en/subtopics/Catch-22-Part-1--Colonel-Cathcart-263326.html, and http://www.google.pl/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=colonel+korn+sarcastic&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 ... btw, only pages that state that Korn's humorless are those directly quoting this article on english wiki... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vaxquis (talk • contribs) 12:01, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

cheif white halfoat[edit]

i think we need to list the fact that he wanted to die of pneumonia and not any other way 166.250.2.248 (talk) 16:11, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:List of Catch-22 characters/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

The phrase "soldier in white" is coming to have increasing relevance in information processing. It is being used to describe computers and even whole systems whose purpose has ended - but live on in the bureacracy they once served. This happens typically because none of the staff currently tending the environment are sure what the system did - and so let it run and even maintain it for fear of breaking something else.

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Citations needed tag[edit]

@TKOIII: not sure which you mean here: inline citations to Catch-22 or citations to secondary sources that analyze the characters? – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 10:54, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That's a good question. I believe I added the tag as part of a series of copy edits but looking back at it, it does seem most of the information is just descriptions present in the book and not a lot of analysis that would require outside sources so for now i'll remove the tag. TKOIII (talk) 16:13, 11 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]