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NPOV[edit]

From the article: Peter Banks may be an obscure artist but is one of the few who have a real "cult" following around. His guitar talent is distinctive and some consider him the finest string-man Yes has ever had (with due respect to Mr. Steve Howe). He's also a fine singer and producer and a fair keyboardist. And overall, he's a remarkable and inspired jazz, rock and experimental musician, not as "classy" as some more famous guitarmen, but certainly a bolder one.

This text seems more fit for an essay than an encyclopedia article, so I'm moving it here for now. Wmahan . 20:30, 2004 May 1 (UTC)

I agree, I liked yes's early work, but I can't just push Steve Howe aside!

Career with Yes[edit]

Wow, was this section written by Banks' publicist (or maybe his daughter)? He comes off as this noble character among the "mean" creatures making up the rest of the band. What's wrong with just saying "he left over artistic difference?"

Hey, I love Peter Banks, I've owned all his solo albums (not many folks can say that, I'm sure), but let's dispense with the dramatics. This is an encyclopedia entry, not an affadavit prior to a lawsuit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bpolhemus (talk • contribs) 15:12, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello!

I am the one who first redacted the original text (entry) refered to Peter Banks in Wikipedia. My e-mail address was different then (1997 or 1998); but you can see my name (Leonardo Ledesma) is the same as well as my site of origin (Lima, Peru).

In those days contributions to Wikipedia were more free-spirited, because the goal was to make us share our knowledge to enrich the web encyclopedia. Of course, every contribution such as mine (I did the original entry of Tony Kaye as well) was susceptible of improvement by any other person. So, the original article I wrote back then has had some changes; and I'm very thankful for that.

My intention was not to write an "essay" (and certainly I'm not Peter Banks daughter :) ) but as a part-time journalist maybe some of that style ended in the entry. Let me say just that my intention was give Peter Banks due credit in Wikipedia; because he's a rather obscure part of Yes musical history and, I think, he deserves to be noticed in some way between the usual tendency to mention only Steve Howe and Trevor Rabin. I certainly like all Yes line-ups, some more than others; hence my original contribution to call attention on Peter.

Sorry if my original effort is found nowadays to be sub-standard for the rules of Wikipedia. I merely see it as a first stone upon which a very detailed and objective data can be (and has been) constructed. And maybe, again, I can consider my original text a brief essay from an admirer point of view. Having said that, let's not deny Peter Banks the credit he deserves just because he's not as famous or revered as some of his guitar peers.

Thank you for reading this; and keep up your excellent work. Pizzarello (talk) 23:59, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have re-edited and re-worded this piece, and added some more references. I have removed the {Wiki} and {POV} tags, but it still needs further work. The lack of citations is the major stumbling block - can future sub-editors editors PLEASE try to remember sources, citations and NPOV. Gushing praise, fancruft, hear'say and your own personal point of view are not what is required. Thanks,

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 19:59, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As I said, what is required NOW is slightly different that what was required a decade ago (when personal points of view where regularly included). Hence the improvement this entry has had in recent time and I agree with the changes you made. And I didn't based the information I shared then on hearsay or fancruft: I consulted three books, mainly the one written by Dan Hedges with interviews with every (ex) Yes member up to 1980 and authorised by the band. Of course, now there are more books and information about Yes and references to Banks in particular. If I contribute something to Wikipedia now I respect the current standards (which, unfortunately, is not the case in some people contributions even today, as I see in other matters). Again, thanks for improving and correct my initial effort.--- Leonardo Ledesma. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.121.40.37 (talk) 17:45, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date of death[edit]

Sad news that Pete Banks has died. I see there has been some confusion online as to the precise date of death. His body was found on 8 March, but he died on 7 March. This has been confirmed by his friend and manager, George Mizer. If a cite is needed, see [1]. Bondegezou (talk) 21:34, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Lots of detail in this nice obituary at The Independent by Chris Welch: [2] Bondegezou (talk) 20:18, 17 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

PERSONAL THOUGHTS ON A GUITARIST WITH BANKS OF TALENT TO SPARE[edit]

Hello, I am Elliott Michaels, a musician who has lived, performed and struggled in New York, Los Angeles, and the last 20 years in Atlanta, GA. Peter Banks was one of the first musicians I met when I moved to Los Angeles from Brooklyn in summer 1981. I had the good fortune of getting on stage and playing with Banks on Tuesday jam nights at the Central on the West Hollywood Strip. I long respected Peter's prowess with a guitar, as well as his willingness to put up with the likes of lesser players such as myself!

One time Banks and I were onstage with some other musicians and I suggested we play the old Martha & the Vandellas hit "Heat Wave." I began strumming the intro chords and when Peter chimed in with the hook riff, I knew I was home, so to speak. That moment is forever in my happy box. It's too bad that Banks died at such a young age, and I'm sure he's blowing away everyone up in Rock & Roll Heaven. Rock on, Peter! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.208.197.20 (talk) 17:37, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Lionel Richie[edit]

The article stated that Peter Banks performed the guitar solo on Lionel Richie's "Hello," but that his work was "not credited." (No reference is given.) But it's well-known that famous session guitarist Louie Shelton played the guitar solo on that song [3]. It's possible Banks played some other part on that song, but if so it should be sourced. I've removed the comment for now. Efb18 (talk) 23:59, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It's certainly a claim Banks repeatedly made, but I've never seen any corroborating evidence. Bondegezou (talk) 08:35, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

OK, here's a citation supporting the claim. I suspect that's merely repeating the claim however: I doubt the obituarist actually researched the issue. I think it's possible that Banks did some session work for the song that might have been used, or that he did some session work for the song that wasn't then included in the final version. I think it's also possible that this was an elaborate joke on his part: he sometimes made outrageous claims that weren't true (pers. comm.). But that's me speaking as someone who runs a Yes website: as far as Wikipedia is concerned, I think the BBC citation is probably sufficient. Bondegezou (talk) 10:34, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Louder article[edit]

I am dropping this here, but this is not one of my areas of editing. Perhaps someone can include it as a reference.

Woods, Paul (2024-01-24). "'We would go out and he really never wanted anybody to know that he was a musician': The troubled life and lonely death of Peter Banks, the man once called 'the architect of prog'". louder. Retrieved 2024-01-24.

Peaceray (talk) 19:01, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cheating story is not true![edit]

It is not true that Peter Banks First wife from 1974-1986 (also a correction) Sidonie Jordan cheated on him or that he discovered her with anyone. They separated for a year in 1976 and she and he both dated other people. They had a falling out in 1996 and after that Peter had a vendetta against her and began to put her down in interviews and in his book! As well as releasing their albums together on One Way Records, cutting her out of the projects and removing her as a songwriter on her own songs! She has since his death, been very gracious in never putting him down on the liner notes of recent releases on Cherry Red Records of Empire, or in any articles or a recent documentary that is in the works. The proof is that he did not say anything about it nor put down the supposed 'man in question' in his book. On the contrary they were friends till his death! Cyanrainbow (talk) 01:25, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

David Cross Link[edit]

The David Cross link in the section about Peter Banks's death links to the page for a comedian, actor and director not the former King Crimson musician David Cross. 2A00:23C6:E8A1:7201:747D:954D:4BF3:FA36 (talk) 11:38, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]