Talk:Mary of Clopas

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Papias Fragment X[edit]

Is not of Papias, but of another author with the same name from 11th Century. 85.76.52.218 (talk) 20:31, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Belief or Fact[edit]

This article appears as a fact but from what I understand it is a belief of some historians but not many of them. I will leave the stub as it is for now but I think it should be changed. Falphin 23:02, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Tabor's Section[edit]

Perhaps Tabor's thoughts on the matter might be included with reference in a section with a more generalized title. But his one-off supposition certainly does entitle him to his own section. Tabor is a fringe theologian, put there by his study of the Talpiot Tomb and "The Jesus Dynasty" book. I'm not making a comment on the validity of his work on those items, but his ideas on those topics generally put him far outside mainstream thought on Church history and related ancient studies. My opinion is that it should not be there at all, as this article is quite short and no other modern, scholarly opinions have been provided. However, being as that might be deemed unfair, I'm only changing the title. 99.22.228.93 (talk) 21:19, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"of"[edit]

Paul of Tarsus means "Paul from Tarsus". Joseph of Arimethea means "Joseph from Arimethea". Mary of Clopas means "Mary from Clopas". But there is nothing, neither Scripture nor Tradition to say that Mary was "from" Clopas. While there may be ambiguity about whether she was the wife of/daughter of/sister of a man, there is clearly a need to get away from a name that she is "from" a place called Clopas. Suggestions are needed. If nothing else turns up, then "Mary (biblical figure)" may have to do. Laurel Lodged (talk) 21:55, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

But Mary (biblical figure) could refer to lots of people, so a more refined disambiguation is needed. I agree that the "of" can be confusing, though it is often used in secondary sources (e.g. [1]). The other alternative is Mary Clopas (e.g. [2]). St Anselm (talk) 22:17, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's a pickle. If nothing better turns up I could live with Mary Clopas which is usefully ambiguous. Laurel Lodged (talk) 22:42, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm. I think I would actually prefer Mary, wife of Clopas to Mary Clopas. I know I reverted the move, but if we don't get any other opinions/suggestions here in the next couple of days, go ahead and make the move again. St Anselm (talk) 01:14, 28 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Pronunciation[edit]

Clopad 1.145.217.208 (talk) 06:09, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Mary on her way to Emmaus?[edit]

Let me here mention the article “Emmaus: Whether a Man or a Woman?” by Philip Jenkins, where he discuss a possibility that she was actually a wife of Cleophas and it was her who was “the second disciple” walking with Cleophas and eventually with Jesus to Emmaus in Luke 24:13–32.

Ceplm (talk) 07:31, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]