Talk:Decius

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The "Decian persecution"[edit]

The "Decian persecution" mentioned by so many Christian writers (and no official source) is not yet mentioned. It will have to form a sub-section.

"On 3 January 250 Decius, it would appear, ordered that the usual annual sacrifice to Jupiter and the Roman gods on the Capitol should be repeated throughout the empire. 33 The edict was not specifically aimed against the Christians, but they were caught in a dilemma. Either they obeyed the emperor’s orders or they stood by their obligation not to sacrifice, and risked death . . . In Carthage and Alexandria only a core of dedicated believers survived. Rescue came, however, first from the fact that no follow-up had been planned which was designed to extirpate Christianity." from Esler, Philip F. (Editor). Early Christian World (Volume 2). Florence, KY, USA: Routledge, 2000. p 827-829. I found these while researching Decius, it seems that the persecution was not aimed at Christians particulars, and to mainly have been effected by local animosity (particularly in places such as Alexandria). L Hamm 03:36, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

1911 historiography[edit]

I've remove some EB1911 historiographical commentary about disputes on sources, as Im sure its been resolved and/or needs a modern update, in any case the facts of the article are so basic its probably not relevant here, EB1911 is notorious for playing up drama for the humours of the victorian reader. Stbalbach 21:52, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

My data sources indicate that Philip the Arab died in battle against Decius at Beroea in Macedonia, and that his son was killed in Rome at the camp of the Praetorian guard when the news reached them. I have not changed the article, as there is more than one source, but would like to see opinion on this Anthony.bradbury 16:13, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Edict of Toleration[edit]

I do not know much about the process of editing entries, but there is a mistake. The article reads "This persecution ended in 260 when Decius issued an edict of toleration." The edicts of persecution were renewed in 253 under Valerian, and were repealed in 260-1 under Gallienus, son of Valerian. I will try to edit this, and hope it turns out right. --Ben iarwain 05:30, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Razgard[edit]

The Razgard does not seem to be situated in Dobrudja, it seem to be situated in Moesia Supperior. According to the Charles Matson Odahl map.

 Razgrad is not situated in Dobrudja and would not have been situated in Moesia Superior, if it had existed at the time, but it
 surely would have been situated in Moesia Inferior.
We definitely know where Razgrad is, it's a modern city. And, since Abritus has been confirmed to be located near Razgrad (after the excavations of T. Ivanov) , I can't see what you are talking about Dipa1965 (talk) 22:23, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Well, it seems I was confused becaused of the quote above. Razgrad doesn't seem to belong to the (Bulgarian) Southern Dobruja although it lies not far away from the latter. Someone with better understanding of Bulgarian geography may verify what we are talking about and remove the reference to Dobruja in the article. Dipa1965 (talk) 15:36, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Gibbon[edit]

Edward Gibbon, in his "The Decline and Fall of The Roman Empire", Vol. 1-10, Chpt. X, Note 2, mentions that Emperor Decius was so named on account of his extraction being that of the "Decii".

"2 [ His birth at Bubalia, a little village in Pannonia, (Eutrop. ix. Victor. in Caesarib. et Epitom.,) seems to contradict, unless it was merely accidental, his supposed descent from the Decii. Six hundred years had bestowed nobility on the Decii: but at the commencement of that period, they were only plebeians of merit, and among the first who shared the consulship with the haughty patricians. Plebeine Deciorum animae, &c. Juvenal, Sat. viii. 254. See the spirited speech of Decius, in Livy. x. 9, 10.]"

Question: is he reffering to Dacians (i.e. Dacii)? - RomânescEsteLatin (talk) 22:31, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

According to roman-emperors.org, the names Decius and Messius are old Oscan names from Italy. http://www.roman-emperors.org/decius.htm#N_45_ (Just scroll down little). --Barosaurus Lentus (talk) 06:02, 10 July 2009 (UTC)