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Section sizes

Section size for Vietnam War (75 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	40,739	40,739
Names	3,279	3,279
Background	899	9,623
Japanese occupation of Indochina	2,715	2,715
First Indochina War	3,515	6,009
Battle of Dien Bien Phu	2,494	2,494
Transition period	15,566	15,566
Diệm era, 1954–1963	86	9,378
Rule	2,554	2,554
Insurgency in the South, 1954–1960	4,118	6,738
North Vietnamese involvement	2,620	2,620
Kennedy's escalation, 1961–1963	7,226	17,183
Ousting and assassination of Ngô Đình Diệm	9,957	9,957
Gulf of Tonkin and Johnson's escalation, 1963–1969	3,711	39,104
Gulf of Tonkin incident	4,290	4,290
Bombing of Laos	1,878	1,878
The 1964 offensive	2,882	2,882
American ground war	12,521	12,521
Tet Offensive	13,822	13,822
Vietnamization, 1969–1972	33	23,665
Nuclear threats and diplomacy	2,383	2,383
Hanoi's war strategy	1,867	1,867
U.S. domestic controversies	2,107	2,107
Collapsing U.S. morale	5,612	5,612
ARVN taking the lead and U.S. ground-force withdrawal	3,297	3,297
Cambodia	3,926	3,926
Laos	1,418	1,418
Easter Offensive and Paris Peace Accords, 1972	3,022	3,022
U.S. exit and final campaigns, 1973–1975	6,660	15,871
Campaign 275	2,181	2,181
Final North Vietnamese offensive	2,994	2,994
Fall of Saigon	4,036	4,036
Opposition to U.S. involvement	4,344	4,344
Involvement of other countries	92	6,815
Pro-Hanoi	16	6,323
China	2,173	2,173
Soviet Union	4,134	4,134
Pro-Saigon	400	400
United Front for the Liberation of Oppressed Races (FULRO)	1,747	1,747
War crimes	867	14,260
South Vietnamese, Korean and American	9,847	9,847
North Vietnamese and Viet Cong	3,546	3,546
Women	128	12,517
American nurses	3,409	3,409
Vietnamese soldiers	6,182	6,182
Journalists	2,798	2,798
Black servicemen	2,334	2,334
Weapons	6,917	10,425
Radio communications	1,502	1,502
Extent of U.S. bombings	2,006	2,006
Aftermath	14	39,009
In Southeast Asia	25	14,903
In Vietnam	8,084	8,084
Laos and Cambodia	3,415	3,415
Unexploded ordnance	1,709	1,709
Refugee crisis	1,670	1,670
In the United States	4,297	13,801
Financial cost	2,504	2,504
Impact on the U.S. military	7,000	7,000
Effects of U.S. chemical defoliation	10,291	10,291
Casualties	9,778	9,778
Legacy	14	8,577
In popular culture	3,286	5,622
Myths	2,336	2,336
Commemoration	2,941	2,941
See also	421	421
Annotations	39	39
References	437	28,190
Citations	31	31
Works cited	5,084	5,084
Main sources	4,454	4,454
Additional sources	16,904	16,904
Historiography	1,280	1,280
Further reading	3,085	3,085
External links	5,396	5,396
Total	321,345	321,345

result parameter in infobox[edit]

MOS:MIL gives voice to the template documentation in respect to populating the result parameter. The guidance is quite specific about what is permitted. Multiple dot points are not supported. This is also consistent with a more minimalist approach advocated by WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE. This is a terrible infobox that needs to be more focused. The misuse of the result parameter is just one issue. Cinderella157 (talk) 01:34, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see where MOS:MIL says you can't have multiple dot points. Nor does WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE prohibit multiple points in the result parameter. Mztourist (talk) 04:08, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MOS:MIL would state: ... should be restricted to "X victory" or "See aftermath" .... The template documentation is similar. These explicit restrictions are not permissive of populating the parameter with multiple dot points. Cinderella157 (talk) 04:34, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see where in MOS:MIL it says that, please advise where exactly. Mztourist (talk) 05:07, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

At WP:MILMOS#INFOBOX and/or search using the quote. See also the template documentation. Cinderella157 (talk) 10:03, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't say that at WP:MILMOS#INFOBOX and searching using the quote doesn't bring up any result, please provide a direct link to it. Mztourist (talk) 05:42, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The nearest shortcut is to WP:MILMOS#INFOBOX. Then look for "infobox military conflict" in curly brackets (like this - {{infobox military conflict}}). If one copies the quoted text (less elipses), goes to MOS:MIL, uses Ctrl-F to search the page and pastes the copied text, it will find the text. I just did exactly that. Cinderella157 (talk) 08:24, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Noted, thanks. On that basis I'm happy for the result to be simply "North Vietnamese victory" or "See Aftermath". Mztourist (talk) 08:54, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Request - Add Taiwan and Francoist Spain[edit]

Taiwan should be added to the combatants list in the Anti-Communist grouping. Taiwan sent air support to aid the South Vietnamese and Laotian and small number of troops to help train South Vietnamese soldiers and conduct reconnaissance operations and small raids on the NVA and VC. Taiwan also supplied South Vietnam with rice and machinery. There were at least 250 soldiers from Taiwan who served in The Vietnam War.

Francoist Spain should be added as Supported By under the Anti-Communists in the combatant lists. Franco sent a force of 100 doctors, nurses, and officers to Vietnam to provide medical aid to the American and South Vietnamese forces in Saigon. Pat J. McCarthy (talk) 19:58, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Pat J. McCarthy, welcome to Wikipedia! One of the guidelines of this online encyclopedia is verifiability: can you provide reliable sources that support that claim? Historians, research papers, declarations, international treaties, that kind of stuff. Thanks! soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 20:23, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Both Taiwan and Spain are mentioned in Vietnam Studies Allied Participation in Vietnam [1]. Mztourist (talk) 03:00, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Taiwan

Has a Wikipedia article already about their involvement but here are some sources I found

- Chinese article by Xinhua News Agency in March 2007 台湾曾秘密参加越战 (Taiwan was secretly engaged in the Vietnam War) detailed the air support and mentioned advisors were sent to South Vietnam

- Leaflet that was dropped by American forces depicts Taiwanese people planting food to be sent to Vietnam and machinery that was produced for Vietnam

- Article in The Free World in Vietnam details how Taiwan sent a "POLWAR group" to assist the South Vietnamese in developing successful political messages and psychological warfare.

Spain - Article in The Free World in Vietnam in 1969 briefly mentions Spain

- Leaflet 2727 was dropped by American forces in 1968 depicts Spanish Doctors in Vietnam

- Spanish documentary called Españoles en la guerra de Vietnam

- Article called Spain's secret support for US in Vietnam written by Paloma Marín

There is more sources on line but their credibility is not as esteem as these. Pat J. McCarthy (talk) 20:00, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Using "Supported by" in the infobox is deprecated. Cinderella157 (talk) 23:13, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

I'm not sure if you've noticed but the source you've used for Taiwan is PRC state media, perhaps not the best source for this case. Considering the subject I wouldn't consider that a good enough source. Originalcola (talk) 00:58, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

History[edit]

The Vietnam war 41.116.139.173 (talk) 18:19, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

yes, what do you want us to say about it? Slatersteven (talk) 18:22, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: ENG 21011 Research Writing[edit]

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May 15, 1975 end of vietnam war.[edit]

We rely on the consensus of reliable sources. Cinderella157 (talk) 23:24, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

According to the department of defense the last 41 deaths of the Vietnam war are those personnel killed in the Mayaguez Incident ending May 15,1975. The last 41 names listed on the Vietnam war memorial are those military people. IT time to dump your phony end of war date of April 30, 1975 as it is wrong. 2600:1015:A026:2AD9:16AA:2EA4:F206:6A7E (talk) 23:52, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't we just kick this around a few months ago? Rja13ww33 (talk) 00:31, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We did. Consensus was to leave it as is since the vast majority of RS use the date used by the article. Intothat darkness 02:21, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to be the same IP user as previously, now wanting 15 May rather than 7 May. Mztourist (talk) 02:59, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As usual you three idiots never respond to the statement. The statement is the department defense considers the Vietnam war is over on May 15,1975 as the last 41 deaths of the Vietnam war are those personnel killed in the Mayaguez incident ending May 15,1975. The 41 are listed on the Vietnam war memorial. 2600:1015:A026:2AD9:16AA:2EA4:F206:6A7E (talk) 12:55, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The US was not the only participant. Slatersteven (talk) 13:08, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A clear case of NOTHERE, as usual. Intothat darkness 13:16, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As usual? I didn't even participate in this conversation the last time it came up. Knock off the personal attacks. Rja13ww33 (talk) 16:43, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about the IP, which should be clear if you look at the threading. Intothat darkness 16:45, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's who I was talking to....not you. Rja13ww33 (talk) 16:47, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It seems both myself and the IP used "as usual." Apologies. Intothat darkness 16:54, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

no problem. Rja13ww33 (talk) 16:55, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

https://history.state.gov/milestones/1969-1976/ending-vietnam. Slatersteven (talk) 13:34, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They have been blocked for a couple of days for PA's so let's close this. Slatersteven (talk) 16:51, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.