Talk:Eustace Scrubb

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Condensing[edit]

This page needs a lot of condensing, particularly in terms of the descriptions of events in the books.

Condensed the events on Dragon Isle. --Korvar The Fox 11:07, 17 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Mormons?[edit]

I removed the addition made in the last edit that said that Eustace's parents were possibly Mormon. My reasoning is:

Though I couldn't find anything written by Lewis that stated how he felt about the Mormon faith and its adherents, Eustace's Parents seem to be at the opposite end of the spectrum. The Scrubb's are supposed to be as 'modern' as they come, while the common view of Mormons in the time frame that the book was written was that they were old fashioned to a fault. It is true that Mormons don't drink or smoke and do wear special underwear, but they do so for religious reasons which doesn't fit the image of the Scrubb family who don't show any signs of being religious.
It's an assumption that can't be verified (I tried) and carries a lot of baggage with it (putting the Scrubbs in a category with any group of people is not flattering to that group of people at all).

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Starfoxy (talk • contribs) 01:00, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

MORMONS? They are clearly atheists: they send Eustace to a progressive school "Experiment House", where "Bibles were not encouraged". The portrait is meant to represent the fashionably Leftist bien pensant intellectual who adopts beliefs (such as vegetarianism) not because of genuine conviction or compassion, but so as to be "progressive" and in the swim. --Sir Myles na Gopaleen (the da) 09:04, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Drinking and smoking is'nt modern, and it is bad. Ari (talk) 10:49, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Emerald Witch?[edit]

The "Emerald Witch" is better known as the Lady of the Green Kirtle. Please see the discussion on the talk page there. Elphion (talk) 17:45, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Killed?[edit]

This article says "Meanwhile, a railway accident in England results in the death of Eustace and Jill" whereas the article on Jill Pole states "It is not known for sure whether Jill and Eustace got to Narnia because they were killed in the train crash that took the lives of everyone else or if Aslan simply brought them there by magic." This seems to be a contradiction... Can we choose one or the other opinion and then update to be consistent? Kidburla (talk) 16:44, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A straight-forward reading suggests that Jill and Eustace were whisked to Narnia (to help Tirion) while riding the train back to school, but that they were killed in Narnia (in the stable), and therefore were not on the train when it crashed. (Jill indeed says that she would rather die fighting in Narnia than return safely to Earth.) That train wreck killed the other five Earth people Tirion meets in the stable (Diggory, Polly, Peter, Edmund, and Lucy), along with the Pevensies' parents. (Peter, speaking to Eustace, calls it "your train".) Lewis is not terribly clear, however: he does not actually say that Eustace and Jill were killed in Narnia. Perhaps they were returned to Earth just in time to be killed in the crash, or perhaps they existed simultaneously in both worlds and were actually killed on Earth. The language we use here probably needs to be finessed a bit. -- Elphion (talk) 19:35, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Everyone was killed in the crash, but they all were pulled into the Narnian world and lived in Aslan's country happily ever after. Thus, I think a concensus should be made based on the article about Jill. All of them only died on Earth.Ari (talk) 10:52, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well, as I said, Lewis isn't terribly clear. Your view is one way of interpreting what he wrote. But in any event, it is not our job as WP editors to settle the matter one way or the other. -- Elphion (talk) 19:33, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]