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(G)airm / glao(ch) / scairt [1] na hÉireann?[edit]

I might feel a little more sympathetic about this would-be stirring (but actually IMHO* somewhat twee) "anthem" if there were some Irish words, too, to go with it (anybody ever seen any?).

(*) I hope we are allowed a little expression of POV on talk pages?

[1] Note that scairt (in Munster Irish at least) as well as "call" also means "entrails".

Quote: The man who composed it - Phil Coulter - said he composed it because he loved hearing a combination of the Irish accents singing together. -- http://www.irishrugby.co.UK/anthems.html

So no money actually changed hands then? -- Picapica 21:40, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

"Parts of the song not usually sung are in italics"[edit]

Must be the time of night that's in it, cause I thought it read "Parts of the song are not usually sung in italics" .... Fergananim 23:20, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is not normal for song lyrics to be included in full in Wikipedia. In any case, I can't find anything to say that Coulter donated the song to the public domain, and he has to have been dead for 70 years for it to be PD automatically. So I am afraid I am deleting the lyric. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 17:54, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Someone must have reinserted the lyrics, although I can't find any reason why the text might be public domain. Therefore I deleted it once again. --Voyager (talk) 21:13, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Frightful Bilge![edit]

I am surprised that there is reference in this article to the fact that many rugby supporters find this so-called "anthem" to be simply ghastly tripe and frankly quite embarrassing to our country and our team. International TV commentators often deride the song and with good reason. "Twee" doesn't quite cover it (see above). Let's scrap it and the sooner the better! Peter Clarke 19:38, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Irish Times (page 1) described Ireland's Call after the French match (World Cup Sept 2007) as our "excuse for an anthem" Peter Clarke 08:57, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"While "Amhrán na bhFiann" ("The Soldier's Song") is the national anthem of Ireland," This is incorrect. It is the national anthem or the Republic of Ireland ie part of the island of Ireland.

"The Soldier's Song" in it's contracted form should be played as a salute when the republic's president attends a game in the republic. The playing of it even along with the "twee" song is insulting to Irish Unionist players. The whole idea of the replacement anthem was to avoid upsetting sensibilities, however on;y Unionist sensibilities are ignored. Acorn897 (talk) 17:35, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

'It is the national anthem or the Republic of Ireland ie part of the island of Ireland'? There are so many people, especially on the internet, that are utterly clueless on this matter, so I suppose I'll have to clarify it. There is an island called 'Ireland', on this island there are two countries 'Ireland' (consisting of twenty-six counties) and 'Northern Ireland' (consisting of the remaining six counties on the island). There is no country called the 'Republic of Ireland'; there is a country called Ireland which is a republic. 83.71.2.102 (talk) 18:02, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

 Utter nonsense! The island is Ireland. One must differentiate between the island and the states within it. The Soldiers' Song is for the main part of the island and does not represent the people of Northern Ireland. By your argument, God Save the Queen is the national anthem for all of Ireland as it is one of the British Isles, Acorn897 (talk) 15:58, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

File:Irelands_Call_on_big_screen_at_Croke_Park.jpg[edit]

This has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. Although I took it, I don't have very strong feelings either way. Take a look [[1]]. Take a look and say what you think. Thanks Nelson50^T 20:41, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

History[edit]

Ok, the song was written in 1995 but what arrangements did it replace? What did they paly before then? 84.203.65.158 (talk) 11:56, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Critique[edit]

Hinds, Michael (December 2011). "Editorial" (PDF). Post; a Review of Poetry Studies. III: Poetry at the Games. Irish Centre for Poetry Studies, DCU: 5–9 : 7. ... the equally vicious blandness of the rugby "anthem", "Ireland's Call", the neutered call to tolerance of the Pax Hibernica, a song that turns green to beige.

Dubious[edit]

Pace Malachy Clerkin, I'm not convinced A1 Team Ireland used "Ireland's Call" as a national anthem, as opposed to perhaps a team song. askaboutireland said "Ireland's Call" 'is used at some national and international sporting events such as Irish Hockey, Cricket, Rugby League and A1GP teams together with the official national anthem' [emphasis added]. I can't find specific references to or footage of the anthem played at victory ceremonies; the closest is David Kennedy writing "With many victories in foreign lands, the team brought the Irish National Anthem to millions of new ears throughout the world." The tricolour seems to have been flown despite the team having a Northern Ireland driver. jnestorius^(talk) 10:51, 2 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

1930's anthem[edit]

From the time of Partition until 1952 and the death of George VI, the UK anthem was in fact "God Save the King". Is this not in fact what should be referenced here, even though admittedly the vast majority of those living today have never heard it as such? 2600:1004:B123:C21:F8CA:5665:C3D4:EAF (talk) 14:17, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dubious claim regarding golf[edit]

I believe that the claim made in this article that all golfers from the Isle of Ireland use Amhrán na bhFiann as their national Anthem is not correct. The citerd source does not properly support the claim. Firstly, the named association only governs amateur golf and isn't even mentioned in the source, while the quoted gentleman was a professional players at the time of the mentioned events. Secondly his statement is unclear as to whether he refers to the island or the Republic of Ireland. Thirdly, the golfers generally compete for Ireland or Northern Ireland seperately in international competitions, though in events like the Olympics they represent either the Republic of Ireland or the United Kingdom but never the entire Island. T v x1 16:48, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]