Talk:AirTrain JFK

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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that AirTrain JFK (vehicle pictured), an airport rail link in New York City, took almost 30 years to plan?
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AirTrain Transfers[edit]

If you get on at Howard Beach and get off at Jamaica, do you pay $5 or $10? --SPUI (talk) 03:20, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

My guess (from the other side of the country) is $10, $5 every time you go thru an AirTrain faregate. Yes they could have an out-of-(subway)-system transfer, but would people use it? ...After checking your fine rail map, my guess is maybe.--67.160.146.193 04:44, 11 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
It's $5. Pay-Per-Ride, and Airtrain combo cards only. Pacific Coast Highway 22:02, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC) (6:04 PM EST)
Entering at Howard Beach, traveling on the JFK AirTrain and exiting at Jamaica Station costs $10. Traveling between the individual terminals is free. There are no free transfers between the AirTrain JFK and NYC Transit. Also, if going between the two subway lines, you would have to pay another $2.25 at Jamaica because there are no subway to subway transfers. --Cluefinder42 (talk) 00:20, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Accessibility[edit]

Oh, and is AirTrain handicapped accessible? I'd assume it is, given that it was built recently, but I could find nothing at all online about it. --SPUI (talk) 10:58, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

All AirTrain trains and stations are ADA-compliant. There are also two designated wheelchair locations on each vehicle.--Cluefinder42 (talk) 00:20, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Page move[edit]

This article has been renamed after the result of a move request:

AirTrain (JFK) → AirTrain JFK and AirTrain (Newark) → AirTrain Newark[edit]

These are the official names for the lines. --SPUI (talk) 01:30, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Go ahead. Who's protesting this? jdb ❋ 01:41, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
The man is putting me down with page history and "this page cannot be moved". In theory this page should only be for these cases. --SPUI (talk) 09:18, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • As a repeated AirTrain JFK customer...Support. —ExplorerCDT 05:24, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • Support. Jonathunder 18:22, 2005 Feb 20 (UTC)
  • Seems reasonable. Support. Tomtomtomtomtom 04:07, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • As one of the passengers of the first two trains of this system (JFK)(and the first train to leave Jamaica), support. — Rickyrab | Talk 05:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

How-to Guide[edit]

It seems some of this information falls more along the lines of advice and transient information. I want to move portions to Wikitravel but I don't know if there is a standard that should be applied. Consider this as an announcement, but if there is any sort of discussion I will defer. Davilla

It turns out content can't be moved to Wikitravel due to licensing. I'd still wonder if some bits of information here meet merits for inclusion. See Wikitravel:New York (city). Davilla 08:02, 24 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion to LGA[edit]

Are there any plans to extend the AirTrain from Jamica/LIRR to LaGuardia with a stop at Flushing Meadows Park for the Tennis Center and baseball stadium? Nyrmetros 19:14, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

An extension to Laguardia has been discussed in the past, but i am not aware of any current plans. The JFK Airtrain was paid for by federal airport funds that can only be used for airport related purposes, so an intermediate stop for the stadium and tennis center might be a problem.--agr 20:23, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Trainset[edit]

I would like to know which is the train Model used for the Airtrain!Is it the Metropolis or? and if you know please add it to the article, i think is important!:)EdwinCasadoBaez (talk) 01:58, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's pretty far down, but the article does mention that Airtrain JFK is a Bombardier Advanced Rapid Transit system. The trainsets in use at JFK are called Mark II by Bombardier. --Jfruh (talk) 02:13, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
AirTrain JFK#Rolling stock Mark II variant. A variant of what if not of British Railways Mark 2? Peter Horn User talk 22:05, 4 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
No mention of a Mark II' on New York City Subway rolling stock, Long Island Rail Road or the Metro-North Railroad Peter Horn User talk 22:25, 4 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Found it, Skytrain rolling stock#Bombardier ART Mark II train fleet. Peter Horn User talk 19:39, 6 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Make that Bombardier Innovia Metro#Bombardier Innovia ART. Peter Horn User talk 20:20, 6 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Snow[edit]

Bombardier ART has been very successful in Vancouver's warm climate, but the Mark I system in Toronto seems to have problems with snow. Does anyone know whether New York's Mark II trains have had similar issues? David Arthur (talk) 15:20, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No mention of a Mark I or a Mark II on New York City Subway rolling stock, Long Island Rail Road or the Metro-North Railroad. Peter Horn User talk 19:03, 6 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Found it, Skytrain rolling stock#Bombardier ART Mark II train fleet. Peter Horn User talk 19:40, 6 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Make that Bombardier Innovia Metro#Bombardier Innovia ART. Peter Horn User talk 20:21, 6 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Elevated railway[edit]

If it's elevated above grade (as JFK Airtrain is along most of its route) and if it runs on rails (as JFK Airtrain does), then it's an "el". AirTrain opened in late 2003, becoming the first separate "el" in NYC in several decades (the IRT Third Avenue Line closed in 1973, and the Franklin Avenue Shuttle and Flushing Line are both considered part of the NYC subway system, as is the former Long Island Railroad track on Rockaway). 198.151.130.69 (talk) 16:26, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Route map inconsistent[edit]

In the route map, for connections at Jamaica, up is away from Manhattan, down is toward Manhattan. At Howard Beach, the connection directions are reversed: up is toward Manhattan, down is away. I found that confusing. It should be easy to reverse the two entries at Howard Beach to match Jamaica, which seems more logical.--agr (talk) 20:02, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Does AirTrain JFK accept cash?[edit]

@Epicgenius and Plandu and anyone else: The Fares section says "Passengers entering or leaving the system at the Jamaica or Howard Beach stations must pay a fare using MetroCard."

  1. Does AirTrain JFK accept cash or credit cards at Jamaica or Howard Beach? The Fares section mentions that $5 is deducted from MetroCard but it doesn't explicitly say anything about other forms of payment.
  2. What about Lefferts Boulevard or Federal Circle? Can I just walk in there without a MetroCard and pay cash?

The Fares section is unclear about this. --RoyGoldsmith (talk) 12:20, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@RoyGoldsmith: (1) You have to pay for a MetroCard before you enter the system. Cash and credit cards, Smartlink, unlimited MetroCards, or LIRR tickets are not accepted (2) No, if you get in at Lefferts Blvd or Federal Circle, you get to ride for free. Fares are only collected at Howard Beach and Jamaica. epicgenius (talk) 16:23, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
To elucidate a little bit on this question: you can "walk in [to Jamaica or Howard Beach] without a MetroCard and pay cash" -- but you have to use that cash to buy a MetroCard. There are machines at the stations where you can buy them -- you don't need to have one in advance and (I'm pretty sure) you don't need to go into the subway section of the station to buy a card. If you arrive at Howard Beach or Jamaica from the airport (or from Lefferts/Federal Circle) without a MetroCard, there are machines on the inside of the faregate whree you can also buy a MetroCard with cash. --Jfruh (talk) 01:02, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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