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"Bengali" or "Bangladeshi"[edit]

Jelloyeti changed "Bengali" to "Bangladeshi", remarking "Bengali refers to language, Bangladeshi to the people". I believe that is not correct, but I am not expert. As I understand it, "Bengali" refers both to the language and to the people of all of Bengal, including West Bengal, where Calcutta is located, ancestral home to a very large portion of the Brick Lane community. "Bangladeshi", at least in UK usage, would specifically refer to people from the modern country of Bangladesh.

Going further out on a limb, I believe that "Bangladesh" means "Bangla (Bengali) land".

Can someone cite anything authoritative on this? -- Jmabel | Talk 06:44, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC)

"Bengali" refers to both the language and the peoples and culture of the Bengal region, which as you correctly say, includes both Bangladesh and areas of India and Pakistan. "Bangladeshi", whilst I can't comment on the etymology (though your breakdown seems very plausible), is now exclusively employed to describe people and things relating to Bangladesh. As far as I am aware the majority of Brick Lane's population is of Bangladeshi extraction, though some no doubt came from other parts of Bengal. I would not use the two words interchangebly, least of all because of the long-standing animosity of the peoples from the different areas round there. --82.38.226.131 09:26, 31 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

surely bengali refers to any connection to bengal(i.e. bengladesh or indian west bengal),whereas bengladeshi just to of bengladesh

Shadwell Massive[edit]

I corrected "Shawell massive" to "Shadwell Massive", but is that actually a geographic location, or just a gang name? In any event, "Shadwell" is a place, and not far away, perhaps that is what was intended. If no one comments in the next few days, I'll change this to just Shadwell. -- Jmabel | Talk June 30, 2005 00:25 (UTC)

Pretty certain it's a gang name. The various gangs of the area, exclusively of one race or another, are a problem and might be worth mention in contrast with the positive fusion of different cultures in other aspects, for example cuisine. --82.38.226.131 08:39, 31 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

From the article: "This is also expected to result in the poorer lower class communities living in the East End who will choose to sell the properties at very high prices to buy more spacious homes further out from the city centre. Consequently. the traditional East End community of Brick Lane will evolve into a unique combination of the middle classes—mostly financial city workers—and those from the vibrant art community."

Whose expectation is being expressed?
Most "lower class communities living in the East End" do not consist of landowners; hence, this is putting an awfully favourable spin on gentrification.

Jmabel | Talk 04:57, 19 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is one of the property developers editing this page?[edit]

The statement about the crossrail link improving the life of current residents by allowing them to move to "more spacious" accommodation is unverifiable and based on no evidence.

NBeddoe 22:32, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm getting rid of that section , it sounds so cheap, like a nice way of saying that the residents will become victims of gentrification.

there isnt any proper evidence to say that the loacl residents will benefit.

But I won't add anything since I havent got any proper references. --Kashcubed 18:07, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've taken it out several times but the contibutor just puts it back with no discussion. Perhaps they'll finally give up. NBeddoe 21:29, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Inclusion in Category:Jack the Ripper[edit]

I am not sure why the article has been included in Category:Jack the Ripper. Although in the area associated with Jack the Ripper, I would question that there is a strong enough link to Brick Lane to justify this inclusion. Firstly, I would note that the Jack the Ripper murders are not mentioned anywhere in the article, which seems strange if the murders were a significant enough part of the street's history to meet inclusion in the category. Contrast this with the Flower & Dean St article which makes extensive reference to that street's associations with Jack the Ripper. Secondly unlike some other locations in the category it was not the site of a murder (as for instance Hanbury Street was). I think there would be less of a problem of there was sourced text to indicate a strong connection with the murders or that an association with Jack the Ripper is an important part of Brick Lane's history, but as it stands I think the article does not sit well in the category. Dunarc (talk) 20:48, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Should be removed. GrindtXX (talk) 21:14, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I have gone ahead and removed it for now. Dunarc (talk) 14:17, 4 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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