Talk:Tory Reform Group

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This article seems woefully inadequate and makes no reference to the role of the Tory Reform Group today in the Conservative Party. Absolutely no reference to Macmillan's famous speech of 1985 that appears on the TRG website. Known also to recent publications which caught so much attention - particularly the recent pamphlet "What's wrong with British Foreign Policy?" The writer should update or seek some further information. (UTC)

Outdated Info[edit]

This article seems very out of date. The list of officers needs adding to - John Bercow MP, Baroness Verma of Leceister, Charles Hendry MP all became Officers at the Conservative Party Conference in 2006 - source - www.trg.org.uk - also reported in press. Rt. Hon. Michael QC MP is also a patron of the Tory Reform Group. There is really nothing post 2001 on this page, which is a pity for one of the party's big pressure groups. [User:TimothyCrockford] 21.46, 19 Jan 2007 (UTC)

Currie[edit]

I would like to see a cite for the claim that Edwina Currie has defected. Morwen - Talk 11:26, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

since that claim has now gone, the article is no longer factually disputed, right? Joolz 17:35, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Membership numbers[edit]

It says "membership has continued to grow". That's unusual for any political movement, especially one that has lost out so badly. Can anyone provide a citation for this? --JASpencer 23:33, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed that paragraph as I've seen no claims from the TRG that membership has grown, and no external references to it. --JASpencer 13:40, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I can confirm that membership numbers have continued to grow. I can also confirm that the TRG has no official position on Europe and has not had for many years, as can be seen from the TRG's publications list over the last seven or eight years. The focus of its deliberations have been domestic policy. My source? I am Chairman of TRG. Now that may not make me impartial, but it does allow me to know the factual position.--TimothyPLBarnes 19:48, 1 May 2006 (GMT)

This is certainly interesting. On the membership issue does the TRG publish it's membership figures? This would definately be worth including if it can be cited.

On Europe, the TRG is affiliated to Conservative Mainstream and the Conservative Group for Europe. Although the TRG may specialise in domestic affairs it can't really be said to be neutral on Europe.

Is the TRG's position a conscious one? This also would be worth noting, as certainly in the late 1990s there were pro-European arguments published by the TRG

Thank you again for contributing, although please be careful to keep within the WP:VANITY rules. Although your edits are definately welcome, they should be backed by citable information - specifically if you are closely aligned to the group that you are writing about.

JASpencer 20:50, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Neutrality/Reversion[edit]

I've not looked at the article for some time, so someone has put in an awful lot of propoganda in. I'm trying to repair this. Citations would definately be useful. JASpencer 16:57, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

On second thoughts I've reverted it. A lot of unsourced statements inserted and information deleted without reason by an anon IP. JASpencer 17:01, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Puzzling[edit]

On the one hand...

The number of prominent members of the group in positions of influence in the party has gradually declined. For example the most prominent member of the Shadow Cabinet who was also a member of the TRG, Damian Green, was forced from the Shadow Cabinet in 2004 (that said, he returned to the frontbench in 2005 as a spokesman on home affairs and shadow minister for immigration).

On the other hand, er, Ken Clarke is in the shadow cabinet, right? john k (talk) 00:21, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]