Talk:Treasure Island

Treasure Island was one of the Language and literature good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
December 18, 2005	Good article nominee	Listed
June 29, 2009	Good article reassessment	Delisted

Current status: Delisted good article

Novels: 19th century Top‑importance

	Novels portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Novels, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to novels, novellas, novelettes and short stories on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and contribute to the general Project discussion to talk over new ideas and suggestions.NovelsWikipedia:WikiProject NovelsTemplate:WikiProject Novelsnovel articles
Top	This article has been rated as Top-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by 19th century task force (assessed as Top-importance).

Children's literature Top‑importance

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Children's literature, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Children's literature on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Children's literatureWikipedia:WikiProject Children's literatureTemplate:WikiProject Children's literaturechildren and young adult literature articles

Top

This article has been rated as Top-importance on the project's importance scale.

Tasks you can do:

Here are some open tasks for WikiProject Children's literature, an attempt to create and standardize articles related to children's literature. Feel free to help with any of the following tasks.

Add {{Portal|Children's literature}} to the See also section of related articles.
Tag the talk pages of related articles with {{WikiProject Children's literature}}
Join WikiProject Children's literature and list yourself as a Participant in the project.
Cleanup: A cleanup listing for this project is available. See also the list by category, the tool's wiki page and the index of WikiProjects.
Deletion discussions: listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Literature
Notability: Articles with notability concerns, listed at WikiProject Notability
Rate the Unassessed articles in the Children's literature WikiProject.
References: Add references to Unreferenced BLPs.
Requested articles: Create a requested article on literature
Stubs: Improve a stub-class article

edit

Scotland High‑importance

	Scotland portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Scotland, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Scotland and Scotland-related topics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.ScotlandWikipedia:WikiProject ScotlandTemplate:WikiProject ScotlandScotland articles
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

Piracy High‑importance

This article lies in the latitude of WikiProject Piracy, a crew of scurvy editors bound to sharpen up all Wikipedia's piracy-related articles. If you want to ship with us and help improve this and other Piracy-related articles, lay aboard the project page and sign on for a berth.PiracyWikipedia:WikiProject PiracyTemplate:WikiProject PiracyPiracy articles

High

This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

WikiProject Piracy To-do:

Here are some tasks you can do to help with WikiProject Piracy:

Requests: John Lopez (pirate), Lords of the Spanish Main, Benjamin Bennett (governor) (see What links here), Thomas Walker (pirate), Richard Bishop (pirate)
Expand: Charles Vane, Edward England, Emanuel Wynn, George Lowther, Pierre Le Grand, Roche Braziliano, Thomas Cocklyn, Woodes Rogers, Piracy in the Indian Ocean
Verify: Daniel Johnson (pirate), Henry Jennings, François l'Olonnais, Olivier Levasseur, Edward Davis (buccaneer)
Copyedit: Golden Age of Piracy
Images: MV Delight, MV Powerful,

Caribbean Low‑importance

	Caribbean portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Caribbean, an attempt to build a comprehensive guide to the countries of the Caribbean on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit this article, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion. If you are new to editing Wikipedia visit the welcome page to become familiar with the guidelines.CaribbeanWikipedia:WikiProject CaribbeanTemplate:WikiProject CaribbeanCaribbean articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Archives

1

This page has archives. Sections older than 365 days may be automatically archived by when more than 5 sections are present.

Background[edit]

This entry incorrectly refers to the story paper serial edition in Young Folks as "The Sea Cook: A Story for Boys". However, every installment of the serial story was published as "Treasure Island; or, The Mutiny of the Hispaniola" by "Captain George North." The presence of this fundamental error on Wikipedia causes it to be repeated online and in print. Here is a sample image from the first installment. It was not colored as issued, some previous owner "enhanced" it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keeline (talk • contribs) 05:37, 15 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I love your storyline 27.123.137.139 (talk) 04:31, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

in this article's paragraph about Cocos Island (Historical allusions, Possible allusions, Treasure Island) it is correctly mentioned that an 1881 letter from Stevenson mentioned his working title "The Sea Cook, or Treasure Island: a Story for Boys." Whether or not this working title was ever ctually used, I do not know. The letter is quoted at https://www.adirondackdailyenterprise.com/opinion/columns/2020/01/the-sea-cook%E2%80%88part-i/ However, the quoted letter apparently makes no reference to "buried treasure of Captain Thompson," which is one of the main contentions of this uncited paragraph.Ramseyman (talk) 17:36, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Needs work[edit]

The writing is not great. Some sentences accidentally state the wrong thing.
Main character descriptions were excessively long... I've fixed most of that.
I cut the Minor Characters list. Statements about characters' natures and intentions etc were a bit subjective, nearly OR in some cases.
Background section has confused chronology... it says Stevenson was working on "the first draft", before serialization, or during, or after for the novel.
Lots of discussion of genres, fairly irrelevant once you've said what type of book this one is.
Big lists of minor allusions to events/works tenuously connected. For a book like this the lists will never be definitive or complete.
References in Popular Culture is laughably non-notable, it pretty much mentions any film in which someone says "treasure" or "island".

I will fix it all sooner or later, unless anyone objects! 😊

twl_corinthian (talk) 10:46, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The article is oddly mostly not about the novel. Rather tangential and trivial database-like information. Only the "Inspiration" section is focused on the novel (excluding plot summary and list of characters because those are trivial). And the inspiration section contains a couple unsourced paragraphs that probably should be removed as OR. There's no analysis of the writing and themes and so on, barely anything about the publication history. How did we go 20+ years and end up with this bloated-but-empty article on such an important book. Compare with this version from 2007 which leads with a proper History section. It was mostly unsourced though. -- GreenC 15:58, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Characters[edit]

Side note to the above:

Every major character in Treasure Island seems to have their own Wikipedia page, despite in almost all cases not appearing in any other works except direct adaptations. These other pages mostly have the same problems as the main page - they describe the character in unsubstantiated terms, and list large numbers of allusions etc, which is a bit pointless and effectively just creates eight "child" pages that all need updating separately. Jon Silver and Jim Hawkins perhaps need their own pages, but other than that, are separate pages for Smollett, Trelawney etc. really necessary? twl_corinthian (talk) 17:49, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Long John Silver: The one-legged cook aboard the Hispaniola. Silver is the secret leader of the pirates.

Well, shoot. If'n I ever read it... 67.149.2.57 (talk) 16:20, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Star Wars Main Characters

Han Solo: Han Solo is the captain of the Millenium Falcon. He is killed by his own son, who is the grandson of Luke and Leia's father, Darth Vader. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.149.2.57 (talk) 16:26, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Move From Literary characters introduced in 1883[edit]

The character pages should be moved to "Literary characters introduced in 1881" and 1882 as that is the year the book was first published as a serial. There is a precedent for categorizing characters in this way. Although the Mysterious Island was published in 1875 as a book, it was published in 1874 as a serial. Thus, Cyrus Smith is in "Literary characters introduced in 1874". Although The Picture of Dorian Gray was published as a book in 1891, a shorter version was published in a magazine in 1890. Thus, Dorian Gray is in "Literary characters introduced in 1890". 2600:1012:B15D:B12E:4138:7E54:F322:569D (talk) 09:30, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Classic"[edit]

"Robert Louis Stevenson had set his classic novel Treasure Island in the towns of Birkenhead and Wallasey"

Is it ok to call something a "classic" as a factual statement in an encyclopedia? Isn't it more of a subjective thing rather than saying "it is widely regarded as a classic"? Is it against NPOV? I'm asking out of curiosity. Dornwald (talk) 01:43, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]