Talk:Nicolae Iorga

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Holocaust denial[edit]

The claim that communists infiltrated the fascist groups and carried out the assassination for their own purposes is generally classed as an example of Holocaust denial.

Why Holocaust denial ? I can't see any connection between this and the Holocaust. Bogdan | Talk 09:49, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I didn't write the remark, and I don't think "Holocaust denial" is quite the term, but I assume this person meant to say that it generally comes from the same circles as Holocaust denial. It's an effort to get fascists off the hook, by saying they didn't really do what most of us would say the evidence rather plainly shows they did. -- Jmabel | Talk 19:10, Feb 10, 2005 (UTC)

Confusion[edit]

Sorry guys, I confused A.C. Cuza with A.I. Cuza, that's why I removed the paragraph. --Eurocopter tigre (talk) 19:22, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bonaparte Highway[edit]

In Bucharest, Iorga received as a gift from his admirers a new Bucharest home on Bonaparte Highway (Iancului Boulevard)

Actually, Bonaparte Highway was what is now Iancu de Hunedoara Blvd., between Piața Victoriei and Dorobanți. see this 1926 map bogdan (talk) 17:36, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm confused. Aren't Iancului and Iancu one and the same? Dahn (talk) 17:58, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No, Iancului is the continuation of the Pache Protopopescu street, in the Mihai Bravu area. [1] and it's named after the other Iancu. bogdan (talk) 18:20, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I had no idea. I just thought the subway station was being redundant... Thanks. Dahn (talk) 18:33, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
And it seems that the house was demolished in 1986. bogdan (talk) 18:36, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, it's in there already - "Political symbol". Dahn (talk) 19:25, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Iorga and Fascism[edit]

Iorga had a great sympathy for Italy, the sister country of Romania, and supported the idea of a special fiendship with Italy as well as with France, an other latin country.. Because at that time Fascism was ruling Italy, he had to keep good relations with fascist government of Rome. However he would have been fiend of the Italian government even in the case of other political leaders ruling the country. It is crucial to undeline this point.--Deguef (talk) 18:48, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In describing Iorga's sympathy for fascism and its limitations, this article follows what sources say. Your message is plausible, but reads like alternate history ("even in the case..."). There is also something flawed in the comparison to how he felt about France: as the article (and he sources it uses) notes, Iorga absolutely despised the French republican system, from early youth, and even in that context preferred to rub noses with the Action Française, the Camelots du Roi etc. Dahn (talk) 20:04, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Photo[edit]

I have access to a source which depicts a photo of N. Iorga's body being lifted from the crime scene. As it was taken in 1940 and published in 1941, without any information about the photographer, it is more than sure public domain. Any thoughts if it's appropriate/good taste to upload it/include it in the article? --Dan Mihai Pitea (talk) 20:40, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I for one don't have an objection to the photo being used, with a proper copyright notice (I assume several such notices apply), but I think it should be actually uploaded on Wikimedia Commons, since it can then be freely reused in other projects.
Please note: I took the liberty of reverting your addition of the Monitorul article as a source, since it is not actually cited in the text, and its mention is therefore against our guildelines for what should go into that section. I also tend to see that particular source as extraneous to the text, which cannot really go into that much detail. But yes, you should credit it as the source for the picture file, upon upload (I assume that is what your addition was meant to indicate?). Dahn (talk) 19:23, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the reply. Concerning the photo, I'll upload it sometime the next days to commons, as it's a shattering proof of what fanaticism can do, especially to those who have an appreciation of the magnitude of Iorga's personality.
About the source: I'll do some partial rewriting of the section pertaining to the murder and then add it again, because it is very accurate and it represents the unrefuted position of the Romanian authorities concerning the massacre, assassinations and attempted assassinations on Guță Tătărescu, Argetoianu and co. Madgearu was "arrested" and killed right before Iorga (around 15:00, so not the same night) and linking the massacre to the unearthing was just propaganda, as all the killings were planned independently and the persons digging up Codreanu's remains never left the gravesite in a “fateful fury”, as the Legion would have us believe. Regards, --Mihai (talk) 17:45, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine with me. Dahn (talk) 19:11, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A list of works?[edit]

It would make this article more useful if it had a bibliography of Iorga's works. -- llywrch (talk) 23:24, 10 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

His most important works (i. e. the ones that are even briefly mentioned in his standard biographies) are mentioned in the body of text. A list of his complete works, if feasible, would be as large as an entire article -- excluding his brochures and his articles. Consider that his secretary Barbu Theodorescu wasted several years of his life to come up with a list of Iorga's published works that counts as comprehensive. It is in itself a brochure... Dahn (talk) 08:36, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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