Talk:Eurovision Song Contest 1965

Score sheet

Hmm 2 things I have noticed whilst going thorugh things onm the score sheet there seems to be no 1 point vote for Belgium (loking at sources all the otehr scores add uo to what they shuld be), and i am getting conflicting data for UK score a coupkle of sources say 25 others say 26. Did Belgium somehow get allowed to give teh 1 point to the UK too? (Note one other source gives mad conflicating data that is defentaly wrong). -fonzy

well acording to this source i have found that has calimed to be veyr thougly checked Belgium awarded 6 to the UK which only suggests that it did btoh award teh 1 point and 5 points. -fonzy

The scoring procedure was different this year. Every country was only allowed to give 9 points. The song that was awarded the most votes in the jury would get 5, the next 3, and the final song 1. If only 2 countries received votes, the country with the most votes received 6 points, and the other country 3. If only one song received votes, that country got all 9 points.

Source: [[1]]

Kumorifox (talk) 16:25, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Belgium did indeed award 6 points to the UK and 3 to Italy, since all their jury members must have voted for these two countries. No country received 1 point.

source: [[2]] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rosertnom (talk • contribs) 11:05, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

nul points

I think the phrase nul points merits an article of its own – particularly as it is likely to mystify anyone (specially a French-speaker!) who is unfamiliar with the folklore of the competition. The phrase is, of course, cod-French for "zero points" – but does anyone know who first used it? -- Picapica 19:57, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

In the article it even appears as "null points" with a double "l", which isn't any language at all. Correct English would be "nil points" with an "i" ("nil" being the standard word for "0" in such sports as soccer) or "zero points", and correct French "zéro point" (singular, with an accent on "zéro") or "pas de points" (plural). It seems the British media got hold of the fake-French expression and started using it along with the correct French one "douze points" - which became famous because the scores were generally announced in the order English first and then French, so this was the culminating phrase uttered when a song received the highest number of points from a national jury. Since the phrase "null points" was never actually used (this is the only place I've ever seen it), I suggest that the quotation marks be removed and replaced with one of the correct English phrases, or simply "no points" or "no points at all".89.212.50.177 (talk) 11:56, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

"Nul points" is a colloquial term used within the Eurovision circles, such as fans, presenters, organisers - which is detailed at Voting at the Eurovision Song Contest#Scoring no points. Colloquialisms are permitted. Wes Wolf ^Talk 13:43, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Song title links

As previously set up, the song titles linked only to an external site. There are, however, Wikipedia articles relating to many of these songs. My latest emendation is an attempt to incorporate these internal links as well as those external ones already included. My solution is probably messy and in breach of several Wp style guidelines, but it's a start... - Picapica 21:09, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

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Conductors

A reliable source has been used to detail the full list of conductors; the cite is reliable enough. However a user is changing the details for the Finland conductor from Ossie Runne to George de Godzinsky. The recent attempt has used Youtube as a source - I'm dubious about Youtube being used as a citation especially with the guidance set out at WP:YOUTUBE which expresses concerns to copyright violations and explicitly states they should not be linked. Unless a different source can be found then I think we should stick with what the current source states. Wesley Mouse 11:57, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

I've noticed that 4lyrics lists Ossi Runne as the Finnish conductor of 1965. However, in the actual footage of 1965 (Youtube videos are rarely good sources, but I think the actual Eurovision Song Contest footage would be a little different), both the host, Renata Mauro, and the commentator announce the Finnish conductor as 'George de Godzinsky', who was also the Finnish conductor from 1961 until 1964. Diggiloo confirms it to be de Godzinsky as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.181.92.109 (talk • contribs) 13:00 17 August 2012 (UTC+1)

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UK Jury Spokesperson

Alistair Burnett was not the UK jury spokesperson. Further research would be needed to determine the name of the person reading out the British scores, but whoever it is, it is not Burnett. 212.2.180.165 (talk) 21:05, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

@212.2.180.165: I'm not going to add Alastair Burnet back to the article, because it was unsourced before it was removed, but what leads you to believe that it's not him?  dummelaksen  (talk • contribs) 21:23, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Just listen to the clip! It's not him. Apart from that, in 1965, Alistair Burnett was the editor of the heavy weight political publication 'The Economist'. His only broadcast credentials were as an economist and journalist who fronted hard hitting political debate and investigative programmes. He later became the news anchor for ITN and fronted the BBC's General Election coverage. Anyone who thinks he spent an evening sitting around Broadcasting House simply to announce the names of three countries and a number for a total broadcast time of 15 seconds, when he didn't even work for the BBC, is probably the same person who invented that Tony Hadley was representing San Marino in 2017. Putting Burnett's name on this page is simply clever vandalism. 212.2.180.165 (talk) 09:24, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Update: it was actually sourced from IMDb, but I don't think this is a reliable source so I'm still not going to add it back. Would still like to hear from User:212.2.180.165 though.  dummelaksen  (talk • contribs) 21:27, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

IMDB is almost as notoriously ridiculous as wikipedia and even wikipedia won't accept IMDB as reliable. The UK jury spokespersons for 1963 & 1964 were also listed with the bogus names of Michael Aspel & Pete Murray, neither of whom performed the task. I removed them also.212.2.180.165 (talk) 15:13, 2 December 2020 (UTC)