Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of murdered people (0th nomination)

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Does this page serve any purpose? The way it stands it doesn't appear very useful: as an alphabetical list it provides the ability to search by name (the Search function takes care of that already), but doesn't provide any other useful information. It also seems limitless, so it could easily grow by millions of names. Exploding Boy 01:26, Jul 22, 2004 (UTC)

  • This page serves the purpose of listing famous/notable people who have been murdered. (What search function could provide the same list?) The "other useful information" can easily be accessed if one follows the links. And it only seems limitless because, as experience has shown, people soon run out of names to add (cf. the edit history of cover version). In other words, I don't see the slightest problem with that page. Keep. <KF> 01:36, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • See, it doesn't say it's a list of famous/notable people who have been murdered, and I didn't recognize most of the names on the list, so they can't have been that famous. Also, many of them are probably only famous for having been murdered, which is a whole other thing. The search function I'm talking about is is to the top left of every page on Wikipedia. Surely if these people are so well-known one would be more likely to search for them by name. Exploding Boy 02:31, Jul 22, 2004 (UTC)
  • As all lists of people, it's supposed to include only people who already have articles in Wikipedia or are likely to get one (i.e. they are famous). It's currently in the format "Name, Year, Annotation" and part of a death-related series. Keep.-- User:Docu
    • OK, I withdraw my vote for deletion, but I'd like to see the page cleaned up, and the entries standardised. Exploding Boy 03:22, Jul 22, 2004 (UTC)
    • comment: I see from this list e.g.: Lili Wang. Why do the people mentioned here qualify for an article in Wikipedia? Is there a consensus / policy / guideline that being a murder victim is grounds for notability? Ianb 05:46, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Oh man. Keeeeeep. Barely. I'm not convinced of it's usefulness, but it might turn into something interesting. However, keeping it makes me want to create List of people who died of old age and List of people who died from their own stupidity.  :-) Ocon | Talk 04:53, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • keep (barely) but only if the people listed are otherwise notable. I see no point in a long (and incomplete) list of murdered random people. Ianb 05:46, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep, I suppose- it is useful information, though I think it would be moreso if it were sorted by date. Besides, don't we already have a lit of people who died from their own stupidity? -FZ 18:00, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Abstain: Someone created a List of people who died with a tortoise shell on their heads. Listmania is outrageous. Also note that people who enter minor folks sometimes hit the List of first and then rationalize the article from that, rather than the other way around. The more nebulous the list, the more susceptible to tomfoolery. This one's probably useful (keep), but the list shouldn't warrant an article; only an article should warrant inclusion on the list. Geogre 21:15, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Abstain. I just want to predict that all you people who voted "keep" are going to regret it when someone starts adding all the names of the 9/11 victims (and that's just the start). --Zero 16:51, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Rename. List of notable murdered people. --Jll 12:00, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
    • Supoort a rename to List of notable murdered people —siroχo 00:28, Jul 27, 2004 (UTC)
    • Oppose renaming, support keeping. To be consistent, we'd also have to append an "of notable people" to every list on Lists of people by cause of death. Current policy already forbids adding non-notables to the article namespace. Keep the existing article titles. If you must, create a {{notablepeopleonly}} template to stick at the top of every list. --Benc 09:35, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)
      • comment: this is an excellent idea. Wiki is a very spontaneous medium, and I suspect most people don't stop and read the guidelines before they list their favourite personal cause de celebre. Of course, this doesn't such a template will be universially heeded, but it makes it easier to point out that someone doesn't belong on a list. Ianb 09:53, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)
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