Talk:Truism

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Deletion, Creation, Undeletion, Merge (December 2003)[edit]

At the beginning of December, this article was deleted without due process. On 00:27, 7 Dec 2003, S1rkull, recreated it, apparently without knowing the history. Brion restored the Page history. The next step is to merge the deleted version with S1rkull's contribution.Peak 08:00, 7 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I guess it's a '[truism]' that you can't fight city hall. If "truism" is not just a word but a worthy topic in itself, I guess there should be an article about it. Personally, I just thought it's a word and should be in the Wikitionary. But maybe the concept itself is worthy of deeper description than a mere dictionary definition. I guess it's a *gasp* stub!!! --Uncle Ed 15:05, 8 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Prevention is better than cure[edit]

Resolved

Question: How can a phrase that includes "better" be a truism? Better at what? Cure may be cheaper than prevention... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.121.143.228 (talk • contribs)

You're right. It's not a trusim and it's not even (always) true. It has been removed now. —Pengo 12:41, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This truiism...[edit]

... rings true. -- Chris 18:52, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The words "cliché" and "truism" appear as synonyms in some references, e.g. an online thesaurus. But I seem to remember that a cliché refers to a word, phrase or idea, while a truism is more often an entire proposition or sentence. Any comments?

9th and 10th amendments as examples of truisms[edit]

Whether or not the 9th and 10th amendments are truisms is actually a highly contested. Since the 1990s, the current conservative courts have revived the 10th amendment as an independent limit on federal power, and thus it is no longer a truism. Since no one seems to have discussed anything on this page for a couple of years I am going to go ahead and remove that section. I would propose as an alternative example something along the lines of "God is good" as God is by definition good. Any other suggestions? Drv208 (talk) 02:38, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Anthropic principle[edit]

I'm somewhat confused by the wording of "some versions of the anthropic principle". I know that philosophers battle over whether it is a truism, and I do note that the article does not state that all versions are, but perhaps whoever included it ought to reword it to specify "which versions" are truisms, or perhaps delete the sentence altogether. CopaceticThought (talk) 07:17, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Babylonic Confusion[edit]

I fully understand if people want to nuke this article, although I think it is quite useful: There are practically 4 different definitions of truism inside of this very short article. The trouble is, all of them are definitions which are used by different people or professions.Highlander (talk) 22:42, 27 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

does not compute[edit]

"The word may be used to disguise the fact that a proposition is really just an opinion" - i can't make any sense of this. should it say "Truisms may be used..."? k kisses 23:48, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

.. Opinion about a previous comment "god is good". And suggestion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.172.65.173 (talk) 12:32, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

´"God is good" as God is by definition good.´ I don't quite agree with that as there are gods that are not ´good´ to our understanding. I'm sorry, I'm an atheist but I love mythology and I don't think the word ´god´ is by definition good. I do agree with the fact that truisms CAN change, the first example of it that was given to me was 'the earth is round' and I immediately said "well, that's a truism now. It wasn't so years ago".

I wanted to update this because I thought it would be good If you could add where the word came from. I mean, is it Anglo-Saxon or Latin? I was impressed to see this word in a Spanish paper it was "truismo" and I've never seen it before in spanish.

I was really glad to see that people talks about these things such as words that many people would think are banal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.172.65.173 (talk) 12:15, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

lol[edit]

Truth is a truism. Truthism. Truithism? Where will it stop? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.80.180.130 (talk) 03:59, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Truism[edit]

I could not agree more with the last statement, whichever, whom's not to wonder as absolute , "The Sun will rise " as surely as

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Thef Moonf Risesf @ Sunsetf andf therefterf The cow jumped over the moon? Jorge F. Valenzuela (talk) 06:00, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

What? Minindo (talk) 09:18, 22 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]