Talk:Prime Minister of Vanuatu

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This article needs to be updated... considering it is linked from Main Page. --Hemanshu 19:04, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Natapei - December 2009[edit]

The page currently lists the Prime Minister's position as "vacant". (he lost the position due to a technicality) However, Natapei is still Prime Minister - I found an article here: http://pidp.eastwestcenter.org/pireport/2009/December/12-02-02.htm ... in summary, on November 30, Vanuatu's Chief Justice made an interim ruling for him to remain PM for another week. Sorry I don't have time to update the actual article. Dracunculus (talk) 18:31, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Recent messy situation (December 2010-June 2011)[edit]

I've tried to make things as clear as possible in the table/list, and put an explanatory note above. In brief, here's what happened :

December 2010: Natapei ousted in a motion of no confidence; Kilman elected by Parliament
April 2011 : Kilman ousted in a motion of no confidence; Vohor elected by Parliament
May 2011 : Court rules on challenge to Vohor's election, finds his election unconstitutional, voids it; Kilman is restored to resume his original term (which is why I replaced "2nd time" by "1st time (continued)" in the list)
June 2011: Court rules on challenge to Kilman's initial election back in December, finds his election unconstitutional, voids it; Natapei is restored as interim Prime Minister to convene Parliament to elect a new Prime Minister.

Simple, right? :p Aridd (talk) 09:39, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Someone removed all clarifications from the list, and labelled the resumption of Kilman's first term as his "second", and the interim resumption of Natapei's second as his "third". That's misleading, and incorrect. Kilman did not begin a second term on May 13; the court voided Vohor's premiership, meaning that Kilman was (at that time) the uninterrupted de jure Prime Minister. (The Minister for Justice, Regenvanu, even said so explicitly.) Kilman did not begin a second term, he resumed his first. Similarly, when Kilman's own premiership was declared null and void by the Supreme Court, Natapei resumed his second term, albeit only on an interim basis. Natapei most certainly did not start a "third term".

To clarify: Natapei's ousting in December was legally valid. Thus he ceased to be Prime Minister in December. But Kilman and Vohor's subsequent elections were both legally flawed, according to the courts, and are thus null and void; legally speaking, it's as though they never happened, and Vanuatu has had no lawfully constituted government since December. That being the case, the Supreme Court has restored Natapei on a purely interim basis until a Prime Minister can be duly elected. Natapei is not serving a new term in office: he is merely an interim Prime Minister, intended to serve in that interim capacity for a few days only, due to the fact that he is the mostly recently lawfully elected PM (for his second term, which began in September 2008).

Now, we can discuss how to reflect all this in the list, but I would very much argue that it needs to be reflected in some way. (Including the fact that, legally speaking, though obviously not de facto, Kilman and Vohor were never Prime Ministers these past few months.) We want this article to be informative, rather than misleading or downright incorrect. Aridd (talk) 20:53, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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