Talk:Saint Peter

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"Rooster"[edit]

why is rooster one of Saint Peter's attributes? Rich (talk) 16:07, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In the story of the Denial of Peter, Peter thrice denies having known Jesus, his mentor. He then hears a rooster crow, and recalls Jesus' prediction of his denials. He regrets his denial of Jesus, and weeps in sorrow. Dimadick (talk) 11:06, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"illiterate" reference[edit]

The article says "other parts of the Acts of the Apostles seem to describe Peter as an illiterate fisherman", but fails to mention which other parts (i.e. specific chapter and verse). 2607:FEA8:1BA6:1500:879:2387:6BA2:F89E (talk) 00:03, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why not mention Peter was married?[edit]

I see in the Archives that there is sufficient reliable evidence that Peter was married, & there is an early tradition that he possibly had a daughter. Adding this reminds us that there is more to the man than being a religious figure: he had a private life too. The only reason to omit this is to promote the image that all early Christians were chaste & flawless -- even though Peter is known for his moment of weakness. -- llywrch (talk) 06:51, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is not omitted, it is already mentioned in the first paragraph of Saint Peter#Accounts. SanctumRosarium (talk) 09:11, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
As an aside, the private life mention reminded me of a conversation with a Theologian who is now, unfortunately dead, that he believed that 'Simon Peter' was actually 'Simon the Rock', because he couldn't swim. For a fisherman this would be something unusual enough to become part of his name. Hard to prove, but interesting alternative point of view, nonetheless. TiredAndConfused (talk) 11:36, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dubious claim[edit]

Nevertheless, Evangelicals and Catholics have always affirmed Peter's authorship—while I may agree that most Evangelicals assert the Petrine authorship, I don't think that holds for most Catholic Bible scholars. Perhaps for the Magisterium of the Church and for most of the clergy, but Bible scholars are quite another kettle of fish.

Bible scholars who are Catholics are under no obligation to kowtow to traditional dogma, but often call a spade a spade.

Ehrman, Bart (2010). "A Historical Assault on Faith". Jesus, Interrupted: Revealing the Hidden Contradictions in the Bible (And Why We Don't Know About Them). HarperCollins e-books. pp. 3–4. ISBN 9780061173943. My hunch is that the majority of students coming into their first year of seminary training do not know what to expect from courses on the Bible. ... Most students expect these courses to be taught from a more or less pious perspective, showing them how, as future pastors, to take the Bible and make it applicable to people's lives in their weekly sermons.
Such students are in for a rude awakening. Mainline Protestant seminaries in this country are notorious for challenging students' cherished beliefs about the Bible—even if these cherished beliefs are simply a warm and fuzzy sense that the Bible is a wonderful guide to faith and practice, to be treated with reverence and piety. These seminaries teach serious, hard-core Bible scholarship. They don't pander to piety. They are taught by scholars who are familiar with what German- and English-speaking scholarship has been saying about the Bible over the past three hundred years. ...
The approach taken to the Bible in almost all Protestant (and now Catholic) mainline seminaries is what is called the "historical-critical" method. It is completely different from the "devotional" approach to the Bible one learns in church.

Quoted by tgeorgescu (talk) 20:27, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone revert vandalism[edit]

Some user changed the aramaic to hebrew, and even used a wrong template in the info box Akhshartag (talk) 21:03, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This edit. Certainly not vandalism, & I suspect he's right that Hebrew was the nearest literary language. I don't know how to fix the template. Johnbod (talk) 21:26, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Which you know from what source?