Talk:Abbey of St.-Denis

This page and Saint Denis Basilica are about the same place. Obviously, a merge is needed, but the question is: what to call the resulting page?

• the Catholic Encyclopedia says "Abbey of Saint-Denis". http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/13343b.htm
• no set naming convention on Saints yet: Talk:List of saints.
• I'm of the opinion that "Saint" is preferable to "St."

I therefore propose Abbey of Saint-Denis. Open for comments :-) -- Tarquin

• • Very short comment: I agree for same reasons. -- April

Depends on what you want -- the basilica is the abbey church, as I understand it, while the abbey is a larger institution. We need Michael Tinkler. JHK

They're different? Ah. I did wonder about that, but the two articles seemed to mention the same features (French kings, etc). In that case, each articles needs to clarify the relationship with the other. -- Tarquin

This is a lovely example of the perils of importing turn of the 20th century documents. The building is the 'basilica', though that is in fact a technical designation invented in the 19th century (or maybe the 18th). The complex was a 'monastery' or 'abbey'. Neither one is 'correct', because neither is French. Both, however, are common in the scholarly literature. I prefer "Monastery" because it is more general. Oh, well. MichaelTinkler

On another note - Saint-Denis is a French Phrase. His name in scholarly latino-English is Saint Dionysius; up to the early 20th century he would have been called Saint Dennis in colloquial or pious English usage. I myself strive to never write it without the dash to show that it's not English. MichaelTinkler

So you're saying one page rather than two? Monastery of Saint-Denis? or Basilique de Saint-Denis, like the Metro station? -- Tarquin 12:45 Aug 16, 2002 (PDT)~