Talk:André Breton

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Birth Date[edit]

Perhaps someone can shed some light on this matter. some sources say that he was born on february the 19th, while some others say it was the 18th... both dates are used in different versions of the wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.177.114.155 (talk) 23:42, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Marguerite Bonnet « Chronologie », in « André Breton : œuvres complètes », tome 1, éditions Gallimard, 1988, page XXVIII :
"Le jour exact de la naissance d'André Breton pose un problème. Dans les esquisses biographiques établies par Gérard Legrand, Sarane Alexandrian, Philippe Audouin, Jean-Louis Bédouin - [...] des essayistes qui ont bien connu Breton - , Breton naît le 18 février 1896 à 22h30. C'est de ce même 18 février que part l'horoscope qu'il a établi pour lui-même à une date inconnue. [...]
Mais l'acte de naissance de Breton porte : 19 février 1896, à 22 heures. Et si, dans Mont de piété le poème « Âge », achevé le 10 février 1916, reçoit la date du 19 février, c'est, d'après son auteur lui-même, afin qu'il coïncide avec son vingtième anniversaire. En outre, une carte postale de Tinchebray adressée à Paul Éluard le 5 août 1931 [...] contient ce seul texte : "19 février 1896, 22h30 / 5 août 1931, 16h35 A.B." [...]
[Breton] écrivait en 1924 dans le Manifeste du surréalisme qu'il était né sous le signe des Poissons auquel correspond bien le 19 février, alors que le 18 février, 22h30, se situe encore dans le Verseau [...]".
J'ai corrigé TOUS les sites où la date était erronée. -- Arcane17 (talk) 14:23, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • French WP says 19 February, and gives the following note:
    On trouve parfois mentionnée la date du 18 février 1896, mais selon l'état-civil, André Breton est bien né le 19 février, comme le confirment la plupart des sources biographiques de référence : Henri Béhar, André Breton le grand indésirable (Fayard, 2005), la Chronologie de Marguerite Bonnet dans les Œuvres complètes (Gallimard, coll. « Bibliothèque de la Pléiade », 1988), ou encore la Notice d'auteur de la BNF [1] [archive]. Comme le précise Béhar, c'est Breton lui-même qui a modifié la date véritable du 19 février en 18 février [2] [archive] : date de naissance anticipée d’un jour correspondant à celle de sa cousine, dont il parle dans Les Vases communicants. Une autre explication, confirmant la modification de cette date par Breton lui-même, fait référence à l'astrologie : [3] [archive].
  • -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 08:35, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Vache[edit]

The article on Vache merely states that he died of an opiate overdose, but in no way implies suicide. There is a book about Vache, Cravan and others called "Four Dada Suicides" that may have lead to this belief. Either way, some clarification on whether his death was intentional or accidental would probably be of merit. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Vach%C3%A9

manifestoes[edit]

There were two surrealist manifestoes in addition to the Prolegomena to a Third Surrealist Manifesto or Not. This should be revised to make this clear. --Daniel C. Boyer

Added[edit]

Added mention of "pure psychic automatism". --Daniel C. Boyer

Added further detail on birthplace. --Daniel C. Boyer

Personality[edit]

No mention of his famous personality? Hyacinth 16:48, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, i came here too looking for the same after reading about how many surrealist artists got tired of painting after several discussions with Breton. Aparently he was an annoying personality.

I remember reading a good deal about his tenuous relationships with artists - kicking people out of the movement on a whim and interrupting performances of Cocteau's plays.

Not enough[edit]

There's a lot about his politics and who he met, all very interesting, but what about some discussion of his work? Totnesmartin 13:09, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Examples of work?[edit]

This page needs some sample paintings by Breton. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thethirdmoose (talk • contribs) 05:07, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

he was a writer not a painter —Preceding unsigned comment added by Petchboo (talk • contribs) 19:48, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Titles[edit]

The caps lock within the titles of his work seems a little bit odd? (Soap Bar II (talk) 01:55, 22 November 2007 (UTC))[reply]

french copy/paste job

Pronunciation[edit]

Could someone with expertise in pronunciation correct that of his name in the first paragraph? Thanks.

--UnicornTapestry (talk) 16:45, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Aligning with the article at the French Wiki.[edit]

Dear fellow editors,
I am leaving this notification out of courtesy to other editors interested in the present article, as I am considering the task of aligning it with fr:André Breton, as a future project. If anyone has any objections or ideas, then please let me know. I have been an admirer of Breton's poetry since the early 1960s, although much less so of his political writings and even less so of his social skills, shall we say. I think I could do a good job at maintaining WP:NPOV and I am sure other interested editors would keep an eye on my edits.
Anyway, I thought I'd leave this message before going ahead, and would welcome and value the views of other editors.
Thank you.
With kind regards;
Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 12:35, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Breton and Communism[edit]

In the late 1920s, Breton tried to steer his Surrealist cult of personality toward communism. He established relations with the French Communist Party (Stalinist) and tried to work with them. Stalin at this time was initiating mass terror and killing inside the Soviet Union. This was also the time of Stalin's show trials, which Breton aped inside his Surrealist party, threatening, denouncing and excommunicating various followers who didn't toe Breton cult. Breton regularly attended meetings and art events of supposed enemies, which he and his followers broke up using fists, sticks and thrown objects. Some were injured in these actions. Breton conceived a love of Leon Trotsky in the late 30s, imagining his version of communism more sympathetic to artists. Breton left France after it's fall in 1940 and lived in the USA. Upon his return to France in 1946, he and his movement were a dead letter inside France. Original Plaid (talk) 09:02, 27 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

And what does this have to do with the Wikipedia article? Can your claims be cited? If so, please add it to the main article. Otherwise, what is the value of you posting this here? --Giacomo1968 (talk) 14:08, 27 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Livelihood[edit]

Which were André Breton's means of sustenance throughout life? Did he work for a boss or had an independent work to support himself on a regular basis? Surely the books he wrote were not best-sellers and a regular source of income... Any ideas? AnnaBruta (talk) 21:44, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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