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Dungeons and Dragons[edit]

I think since there have been several editions of Diablo dice/paper RPGs (like at http://diablowiki.net/Diablo_pen_and_paper_RPG it shows 4) that we should maybe go into more detail about what version was included with the game.

I think it was this version http://diablowiki.net/Dungeons_and_Dragons_Adventure_Game:_Diablo_II_Edition because I am pretty sure I have that one with the Rogue on the cover and remember the 'fast play' stuff. Not sure where the version with the Barb on the cover comes from.

Is there a final answer on whether this is AD&D2E or D&D3E rules? Or what title we should use to refer to it? Should "FAST-PLAY GAME" on the top be considered part of the title?

It sounds like the Necromancer was not one of the playable classes, which is disappointing, although I guess it balances the gender ratio I don't think they ever did an expansion for the Druid/Assassin. Also not sure Diablo III ever got anything like this. 184.145.18.50 (talk) 15:58, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Game Credits[edit]

This list of game credits is super broken; there appears to have been a topic started and ignored on the subject already.

An example of a GA-scale video game article is Deus Ex, a game of similar parameters, whose credits run thus:

  • Director(s) Warren Spector
  • Producer(s) Warren Spector
  • Designer(s) Harvey Smith
  • Programmer(s) Chris Norden
  • Artist(s) Jay Lee
  • Writer(s) Sheldon Pacotti
  • Composer(s) Alexander Brandon, Dan Gardopée, Michiel van den Bos

Looking at the actual credits http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/deus-ex/credits, I'd argue that Warren Spector as the team director is the equivalent of Dave Brevik and the Schaefer brothers: Heads of the studio who run all the disciplines. The credit Moby gives for them is "Project and Design Leads", not "Design Leads", which means something completely different. I'll note that in the games business titles are extremely variable, so making sense of them and standardizing them is a good idea.

What I'd propose is to create better conformity with what's in the above credits is:

  • Director(s) David Brevik, Erich Schaefer, Max Schaefer
  • Lead Producer(s) Matthew Householder, Bill Roper
  • Lead Designer(s) Stieg Hedlund
  • Lead Programmer(s) Rick Seis
  • Lead Artist(s) Phil Shenk
  • Writer(s) Kurt Beaver, Stieg Hedlund, Matthew Householder, Phil Shenk, Robert Vieira
  • Composer(s) Matt Uelmen

Note that I added Lead to the titles that clearly have large teams behind them--the attribution as it stands in both of the above examples implies that there was a single programmer or artist involved in the production of these massive titles, which is absurd. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.152.135.157 (talk) 19:08, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Mobygames is not "official" credits. IMDB, which is no less "reliable" than Mobygames, matches the article. Both are actually unreliable sources. Since this is still in question, I'll install the game tonight and check the actual credits. As for "lead artist" versus "artist", etc, you need to bring that up at Template:Infobox video game. This article is not the place to suggest changes to the infobox labels. -- ferret (talk) 19:18, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I understand Mobygames uses official credits from either manuals or in-game lists. IMDB on the other hand is principally engaged in credits for film, and appears to be much less reliable when it comes to games. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.152.135.157 (talk) 17:31, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies, I forgot to work on this. I would still like to directly check the credits before making a change. I will try to get to it tonight. -- ferret (talk) 17:42, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

And done.

  • The current infobox is mostly correct and in accordance with the infobox documentation. In the credits, Hedlund is credited only as "Designer", not "Lead Designer". Seis is credited as Lead Programmer (as currently listed), and Shenk as "Lead character artist" (as currently listed). The only "Design Lead" credit is Brevik and the Schaefers. Kenneth Williams is correctly credited as the producer for Blizzard North.
  • What's 'wrong': Brevik/Schaefers are not credited as directors. There was no "director" in the credits. If we believe "Project Lead" is director then its fine. Secondly, there are five writers. They are credited correctly, as "scenario writers", but the infobox says to list no more than 3. I think we're fine on that though.

Based on this, I still believe no change should be made, except maybe to blank out Directors. Mobygames does not accurately match the game credits, as they've combined the game design section (Credits for Blizzard North) with the support/network/marketing section (Blizzard Entertainment). -- ferret (talk) 21:54, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Source[edit]

http://web.archive.org/web/20000517115042/http://gamespot.com:80/diablo2.html

Was there a point to this? -- Fyrael (talk) 14:45, 10 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It's a refidea presumable, he just didn't put it in the template. -- ferret (talk) 14:49, 10 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

PC Player sales analysis[edit]

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Remaster rumor[edit]

Even though the story has been picked up by several reliable sources like Forbes and PCGamer, I assume we wouldn't want to add a statement about this Diablo 2: Resurrected thing theoretically coming out later this year since even those sources have labelled it a rumor. That sound about right? -- Fyrael (talk) 01:33, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation "Tyrael"[edit]

Does anyone have any Info, why Tyrael is pronounced "T'real" in the game? I find it confusing, maybe its also worth a mention. KhlavKhalash (talk) 18:26, 2 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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