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Tour content[edit]

@MetalDiablo666:

You appear to be engaged in WP:Disruptive editing while offering invalid ("none of those tours even have articles"[1]) or insufficient/opinion-based rationale for your series of edits ("rv; doesn't belong in this article"[2], "again removing, not needed in this article" [3]) including the removal of content citations while approaching WP:3RR.

Note, both this content and format are as seen elsewhere within Category:American hard rock musical groups and similar genre categories. We also have Category:Lists of concert tours. In total, this demonstrates there is agreement that this type of content is appropriate for inclusion in the artist articles or within standalone MOS:LIST articles.

As such and per WP:BRD, your edits have been reverted to the long-term stable version of the article with restoration of the new supporting citations. Please discuss. UW Dawgs (talk) 05:56, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There are over 50 textual references to tour/toured/touring/similar variations within the subsections of the History section. This further supports having this content within its own section as a clean, chronological bullet list. UW Dawgs (talk) 06:15, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

UW Dawgs, Just because The Cult has toured many times doesn't mean a list of tour dates should be in the article. Why don't you create articles for at least one of the tours before you re-add them again? MetalDiablo666 (talk) 15:45, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@EdJohnston: Are you willing to revert to the stable version of the article[4] which conforms with the relevant notability guideline (WP:NCONCERT), or prefer that this is pursued elsewhere such as RfC or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music? Cheers, UW Dawgs (talk) 21:43, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

An WP:RFC sounds like a good idea. To strengthen your argument, you could collect examples of other band articles where tours either are or are not included, and links to any relevant talk page discussions. In terms of making the article useful, a bare list of the dates and names of tours doesn't seem very exciting to any reader who isn't already very familiar with the band. EdJohnston (talk) 01:45, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]